Do Yinz Believe This?

We connect everyday life with bigger patterns, from raising a baby and watching a new wave of families form to asking why human behavior repeats no matter what era we live in. Then we pivot into con artists and serial liars, including how social media turns sympathy farming into a lifestyle and how online bullshit can spill into real courtrooms. 
• life with a curious kid and noticing a baby boom 
• foster care and kinship care getting more visible 
• technology changing fast while human archetypes stay familiar 
• getting ordained and what weddings really are legally 
• the “quickie” wedding that feels built to last - Mr & Mrs Moore
• why good lies cling to the truth 
• sympathy farming, fake illness claims, and attention as a reward 
• famous impostors and why “looking the part” works 
• trust, verification, and teaching kids to spot scams 

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Lanterns Flicker And Cold Open

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Lanterns flicker thunder rolls Scott and Crystal on patrol back roads twist the moon hangs low. Sasquatch tracks where the rivers flow.

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Welcome to another episode of Gilded Trash Podcast.

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Welcome back.

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We're gonna get copyright infringement. We use that so much, but I love it. That's who love that song.

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It makes me want to watch young John Travolta. Young John Trav.

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I'm not drunk, I promise. I'm really not. Um Young John Travolta.

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Yeah.

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Back when he was normal.

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Yes.

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John Travolta was likable when he was young, right? He was. I mean, like, he got weird at a certain point. We all acknowledge that.

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I know, but if you think of um like uh what's that urban cowboy or whatever that was? Midnight Cowboy. Midnight Cowboy. Like, he was a little weird in that one.

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I mean, he's always been a little weird. I mean, I don't mean that, but I mean like he got like weird, weird.

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Right.

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Like, not just regular weird, but like young John Travolta, straight killer, dude. Saturday night. Every woman in America at one point wanted to dance with John Travolta. Oh. Like it peaked John Travolta, he was the stud of all studs.

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I can agree with that.

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You know what I mean? Because he's

John Travolta And The Weird Turn

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a good-looking guy, he's famous, and he could dance. And people knew, and women knew that. So that's what made him so like appealing, I guess.

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I mean, yeah, he is a handsome guy, but that was on the cusp of the disco genre where gender bending was really starting to take shape. So I don't know. To me, he was uh I could see it coming a mile away, the weirdness.

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Well, I mean, he's so weird now, though. I mean, he's a Scientology. If you go down the Scientology room, dude, that's a big pill to swallow.

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Oh, remind me about that later, because that feeds directly into one of our um subjects for our meat and potatoes later.

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That was the ice machine.

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Oh, I thought somebody was saying.

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Were you talking about Elron? L R H?

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No, no, no, no. Because that's a different kind of a uh but it is though. Yeah, but I don't want to talk about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. We'll just let's what have we been doing for the last couple weeks?

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Baby.

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Baby, baby stuff.

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Our lives are boring. Although we did take him to an open mic in Huntington at the park. That was cool.

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Yeah, that was cool.

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Even though, like, I mean, that's the thing is he's just like on the cusp of being able to enjoy so many things.

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Right.

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It's like, but he's just a sh just a hair schmidgin too soon.

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Right. Like he definitely enjoys music.

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Oh, he l he enjoys the things that we do, but he's like this close to enjoying them so much more.

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Right. For like to the point where like he'll be wanting to do things rather than being forced to be drive. Right.

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He enjoys all that stuff, but he's just he's an interested, curious child. Kids are like cats in that they're very curious, like they just are absorbing everything around them. So when we go, of course he's interested, but like he's more interested in what's going on around him.

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Right. He's a people watcher, he does like to watch people. And he's definitely Indonesia, so he wants to touch all the plants and pick up rocks, and that's all fantastic. Yes, put things in his mouth.

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I mean, he's at that, he's definitely at that stage. That's his the

Parenting Life And Baby Stage Chaos

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stage that he's at for anybody that's out there wondering. That's the stage that he's at. If it can go, it will go into his mouth.

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Yes. But so now that we have a child in the house, I f I thought, and so you know, I I consulted my trustee assistant, um, that there was a baby boom going on, right?

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It certainly seems that way.

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Like everybody that we know is having babies.

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And I understand that families are cyclical.

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Right.

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I understand that that's a right. But you know, it's it's it it's inevitable that it's gonna go that way. But at the same token, we're not talking our family, really, at all. We are some of it, but like that's not why we're thinking that. We're thinking it because it just even just looking out on our street, right? Everybody's got a baby. Right.

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Like two years ago, it felt like all the kids were like over the age of 10 running around. And now, like all the kids running around the neighborhood with are with parents or adults, and they're all like under five.

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Well, then of course I had to ask too, though, do we have new car syndrome? Right. You know what I mean? Are we on are we noticing we got a Honda Civic because are we noticing all the different Honda Civics because we just got one?

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Right.

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Like you know how it goes with a car, you're like, oh my god, I didn't realize there was a thousand of these things on in my neighborhood. Right, exactly. But I don't think that it doesn't feel the same. It's like I see babies before, but it just seems like everywhere I turn, baby.

SPEAKER_00 5:17

Right. Well, so Chappie told me that one of the reasons, one of the contributing factors is that I'm at an age where all of my peers are starting to have grandchildren. So that's more likely to show up on my social media feed. But you're not, you're kind of in between those ages.

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Yeah. I mean, most of my n very few of my friends, the ones that had kids in high school, right, might have grandkids.

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Right.

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But for the majority of it, none of my peers have grandkids at this point. I'm not saying none, because I'm sure there's a few, and I definitely know a few. Right. But I'm just saying 90%. Right. And but the thing is too with this, is I think there's a lot of I think it's kind of a combination of all of these things.

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Well, and you know, it it is a combination, but one of the other things that leads me to more towards like new car syndrome is that I'm also noticing that there are a lot of foster families out there, which applause, applause, because like our situation is slightly different because we are related, but there's a lot and kudos to everybody who's doing anything with it, anything with helping children at all.

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Um world out there, right? And there's a lot of kids out there that need something. Right. And I don't, and again, to the like to your point though, you said about um you know, our situation is kind of unique, but what we also learned is that it's not unique, right? It is unique amongst the greater part, but within the foster community, it's one of the most prevalent. I mean, I've written I've I've written I've written articles, peer-reviewed studies. I've read articles with peer-reviewed studies that show that more grandparents are raising their children. I mean, their grandchildren. Grandparents are raising their grandchildren more now than at any point in American history.

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100%. And I mean, there's a lot of factors that lead into that. And we're not going to talk about them today because we have a whole lot of people.

SPEAKER_02 7:39

No, that could be an episode about that. That could be a whole episode. It's sad, it's sad, but again, like round of applause to the folks that are stepping up because there's people that do, and that's it, you know, and a lot of the people, like as a whole, as a community, it get like a bad rap. Right. Like you're in the foster system. They're getting bounced around. And the system is not perfect.

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Right.

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And is there do and I know because people only read about like the abuses or the Right. You will only ever hear the horror stories because But the fact of the matter is, is 98, 99% of all of them are way better off than that. Right. And I'd say that 90 to 95% of the people that are involved are people that are just genuinely trying to help. It's like anything else, you're always gonna have bad applications.

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And everybody has different reasons too. And like a lot of moms like get MD Ness syndrome after their youngest kid goes to school and they only or goes away to college or whatever, and they only know parenting. That's like their whole persona. And some women embrace that and they find something new to do. Some women just don't want to do that.

SPEAKER_02 8:59

Well, that's uh yeah, that's no different than any. I mean, some people find that their joy in life comes from being raising kids, whatever that consists of.

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And we're discovering that it might be ours.

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Well, I wouldn't maybe go that far. But I do enjoy it. Right. It is the greatest joy in life.

SPEAKER_00 9:21

However, they're not cats. I can't keep getting more of them.

SPEAKER_02 9:26

Well, that too, but it's like at some point I want it to end. Right. Like it's you know, uh it's like one of those things. It's like, it just goes with like with anything. You want to see it to completion. Right. Um, in a sense of you want to see that end result of like all the work that you put into it to culminate into them being a great human being.

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Right.

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But at the same, and that is like one of the great it's like the greatest privilege in life. However, however, I understand why people don't want to repeat it or do it at all.

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Right.

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I also get that because it is a lot. It is way more than I ever expected or knew. Um, and I understand that this is like it's all new, so it feels more, but like we're getting settled in now, and I'm beginning to get a grasp of what it consists of. But it's still a lot. Yeah. And I understand also that as they get older, the management of the child changes. Sure. So not necessarily easier, but it's different.

SPEAKER_00 10:29

Right.

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It's not the it becomes more of a teaching thing and less of a managing of just of a little crazy creature that knows nothing and it just wants to do everything.

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Yeah, absolutely does. And and I've talked about this before. Like when I was when I was younger, like my first go-around with having kids, like the world was so different 25-30 years ago. And I know that like every generation says that. And it is. For every generation, it is. I'm not discounting it. I'm not saying that my that this is way different for me than it would have been for anybody else. But that there's there are definitely technologies available today that weren't available when my kids were young.

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I think it's actually it's easier from that perspective. Yeah. Because you think about, but like you talk about the change, but like I'm just because like you think about your like because I've heard this sentiment before of it's what more different now than it's ever been. Like the difference now between this generation and the last is more different than it's ever been. Really? Like, between the generation where there was slavery and no slavery, automobiles, no automobiles.

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Right. Like, are you kidding me?

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We've had huge leaps before from one generation to the next where things are absolutely mind-blowingly.

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I've talked about it all, but yeah, it's

Technology Changes But People Don’t

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one of my favorite subjects. It's or even like again, like I've talked about the like computers. We think that computers have only been around for X amount of years. They were actually uh of uh around since the mid-1800s, just not in the scale that we think of or with the technology we think of.

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Well, sure. I mean, you could look at I mean, and you could apply that to anything. Right. I mean, because there's lots of examples of like ancient technologies that sort of don't even reappear then again for you know how many every years. But point being though, every I mean, maybe not every generation gap is as big or small as the other. Sure. But I bet they all trend towards the s mean, you know what I mean, over time, because people, we just as human beings make leaps and bounds in everything, the world that we live in every day, every we've been doing this now for six thousand years.

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Right, we've been advancing forward for our entire and we continue to do so, exactly.

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Yeah, so it's always gonna be, and this is one of those things that like it goes, and it I know this you know what hasn't changed in in centuries?

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What's that? Because our environment has changed and maybe even exponentially is changing faster, right? What hasn't changed is the human archetype, the templates, the way that people act.

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What you're laughing. Because right there, you totally went girl at a party, Cecily. At first, you were like, You said you said the right thing, but you said it slightly weird, and you were like, And right at the end until you even did the whole thing. I don't remember. I can't wait till it's right. You have like it was just it was so and it just made me laugh because it was like exponentally okay. And you made me exponentially I don't even know what is going on, and then the way you broke it down, it was totally something that she would assume.

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But it but it's true though, the the human archetype hasn't changed. No. So that's what you need to hone in on is what what characteristics do you want that child or that person to embrace, right? Right. Curiosity, common sense, logic and reason, and love.

SPEAKER_02 14:28

And think about this. You even think back, like I bet that all humans have had the same set of sort of thoughts throughout time. Right. Pertinent to what's you know, the world that they live in within context of the time and place in which they live.

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Yes.

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But has the same sort of like it's the same context. I think I bet there was a guy in zero, zero, the year zero, that was like, I tell you, these kids today are getting worse by the minute. They're this music they're listening to, have you heard this sitar nonsense? Do you know what I'm saying?

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Yeah, absolutely. I guarantee you. These drum circles are rallying up the kid the teenagers. Right.

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I guarantee you, on the in the middle of Africa, a hundred thousand years ago, when humans are emerging and becoming the the sentient because of the thought prior to the case. Well, just I just mean like forming communities, and they were in hunter-gatherer groups, and they're sent. I guarantee you that there was somebody that had the equivalent of that thought sitting around like how's our tribe ever gonna survive within this new generation of kids? Because we're all gonna be this humans aren't even we're not even gonna make it. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 15:56

Like because in that time it only took one person with a new thought or concept or pattern to rile up the norm, right?

SPEAKER_02 16:06

Well, no, yeah, I get that, but that's what I'm saying. Back to your point, though, those archetypes are long established within us and our society and our being, because it's not just our culture. We're not just talking Americans across humanscape. Right. There's the same people repeating throughout history. And I don't mean the same people literally. Right.

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It's even not like reincarnation in the world.

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No, I just mean it's the same people. People all do the same. We all make bad decisions, we all make mistakes, we all throughout history we did people that get power tend to try to get more.

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People that get money tend to try to get more. Right. It's like people that get love, uh, like uh n not love is like a romantic love, but love like praise love, like attention love.

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There's always a struggle amongst the classes.

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Always.

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You know what I mean? Like all that stuff is pertinent to the existence of and something to fill the void of what we don't know. Right. And it's just that's just it. It's like we're because we are think so much, we have to, we can't not it's not just us, things in nature always seek to solve the puzzle. Always seek to solve the puzzle, you know what I'm saying?

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Right, absolutely.

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So and no there and humans are no different than that in that they're they seek finality in Well, even our brains and our eyes are trained to fill in gaps. Right, that's what I'm saying. So we have to we we always want to get to the answer. So the fact that we have these questions out and the questions throughout time become less and less and less and less and less because we discover more and more and more and more about the world that we live in and the way that the universe works and all of that stuff. Because you know what I'm saying, like so the a man 10,000 years ago, right? While he still questions, asks the same questions like why am I here, you know, this and that, the world that he understands is very different than the world that we understand.

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Yeah.

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So they you only have to look at the stories that we make up about these things, about the things that we don't understand, to know, like see how complex it is, and how long we've been making stuff up about stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 18:45

And how long people who've never even met have made up similar stories about the same things. We made up the whole world, dude.

SPEAKER_02 18:52

We made up every government, we made up money, we made up all of it's made up.

SPEAKER_00 18:57

Right. Other than like what's bio exists biologically, the rest of it's all made up.

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All of it's made up. Everything that you think of in life, like the whole structure of your life, everything is made up. Right. And that's why I think the real rebels of society are the people that break outside of those things.

SPEAKER_00 19:18

Absolutely. I love that you're saying that though. Well, it does, but we have something in between. We got one more subject real quickly in between. We've got some meaty meat and because I know we might go long today, Gallis. That's fine, but right. So the other um this the the middle ground here is that we've often so you're ordained, right? And that fits into the overall. Yes, yes. And so you've done several weddings, um, several means four.

SPEAKER_02 19:57

But still not several, because a lot of people get it and do one and done. Right. A lot of people are one and done, no, not Michael Jeward, no. No, I'm not. I mean, but I have done four. That's very realistic. Right. But it's it's more than one, more than two.

SPEAKER_00 20:13

But we have to unpack the re So the first one was the reason you got or well, you got ordained to perform the ceremony.

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Your stepdaughter.

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Not our stepdaughter, that's my daughter.

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My stepdaughter. That's a joke. That's a joke.

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I know.

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No, you remember. I might I have to tell the story now because you gotta explain it. So when I was, so I got ordained so that I could perform the wedding of my stepdaughter.

Getting Ordained And Accidental Weddings

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Your daughter. And because she asked me to.

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Yes, she asked me to.

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She asked me to. And um so I just did the online thing, you know what I mean. And uh I never even thought about doing any other. It's not like I wasn't like this is gonna be my thing.

SPEAKER_00 21:01

No, not at all.

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And um I was sitting at the we were sitting at the bar, and I was, you know, just bullshit with my friends. And he's like, We I don't even know how it came up in conversation, but we were talking about this. I was like, Yeah, I got ordained so I can marry my stepdaughter. It sounded real concept. I got ordained so I can marry my stepdaughter. And then uh he started, he said, What?

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Yeah, it was.

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And he's like, What did you just say? And he started cracking up laughing, and it like hit me what I said. And I was like, oh my god. And uh Mary was standing, Mary was bartending then still with the news. And she was laughing, cracking up. It was hilarious. It is definitely hilarious, and it's like it just because it sounds ridiculous to say it that way, but then like to just casually say I meant to. Literally marry her.

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Right.

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Like in the sense of I'm going to perform the ceremony.

SPEAKER_00 22:05

Right. But it was still hilarious.

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But it's still hilarious.

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But then, so my friends and my sisters and all that knew that Scott was ordained for our daughter's wedding. So then they would everybody was like, hey, can Scott do this? Can Scott do this? So the first wedding, so that wedding was I was rooting for her to stay in the water. Sure, but let's it but it felt right. He felt like a good guy. We were rooting. Whatever. But it didn't work. It just didn't work. Fine.

SPEAKER_02 22:41

For various reasons. For various reasons. Not just the marriage itself.

SPEAKER_00 22:45

Right. So then my nephew wanted to tag along with his girlfriend while she was going into boot camp in, I think, North Carolina. And the military rules, whatever, the only way that he could go with and stay on base with her is if they were married.

SPEAKER_02 23:04

And I that's like I know hundreds of people that attend people get married for a variety of reasons, and military things are one of them.

SPEAKER_00 23:12

That's definitely one of them. And a lot of them don't work, some of them do. Yeah, of course not. Um here's the fact of the matter is a lot of marriages don't work, period. Period. But you have to see, you have to look at where the marriage started, right? Absolutely. So that wedding number two didn't stick.

SPEAKER_02 23:30

But I want to throw this in here with wedding number two. Wedding number two came to our house.

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Yes.

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It was like a very, hey, can you do this? We got this. We'll be out in a couple we can be there in 20 minutes. Right. And I was like, sure, I don't give a crap. Right. And I'm gonna let people out on a little secret here is that like people think that it's like this big official deal, and I it is sort of. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 24:01

It clearly just you're on the hook legally to sign that.

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You gotta sign a piece of paper.

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Right.

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It's not like it's this big thing, but people act like it's right. It feels like a I I mean, it is, it's a wedding. I get it. I'm not saying, but it just when you it when you perform them, it just seems like you realize that it's not as I feel I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 24:24

It's a le it's a technicality, it's a legal thing.

SPEAKER_02 24:26

It's like having a notary.

SPEAKER_00 24:28

That's exactly what it is. It's like having a notary now because Scott is Scott and he's such a personality, he can jazz it up if y'all want it jazzed up, right?

SPEAKER_02 24:37

But what the second wedding led me to believe then and realize at that point, I was like, shit, yeah, man, I'll do whatever. Now like and I was like, I was we'll specialize in just I'll do all the bullshit weddings that nobody wants to do because of whatever reason, I'll do it. Right because I was like, it's fun. We I mean, obviously, I'm not just doing it for you know, Pete Hire for whoever. Right. I have family, friends.

SPEAKER_00 25:04

Right, right.

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You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 25:06

Like that's like it somebody We're talking shotgun weddings here, y'all.

SPEAKER_02 25:11

Yeah, yeah. And it's like everyone's been sort of unique. But anyway, the second one is what made me realize that sure, I want to keep doing this for whoever wants me to do it.

SPEAKER_00 25:20

So the third one um was a a longtime friend of mine, and I don't even know how to characterize that. Um Hal's, you know, I love you, but shit. I think they met in rehab. I'm not even joking, or jail maybe. I'm not sure, but it was something like that. And I'm not making like she knows she needs to get her shit together. So I'm I'm just gonna say it's all good.

SPEAKER_02 25:47

Yeah, everybody's got things that go on in life. It's whatever. I don't care about any of that.

SPEAKER_00 25:51

But I'm gonna be honest, her family was one of the key reasons that I even wanted to create a concept of gilded trash because that family right there gives and gives and gives. They're there for anything, they're there to help you when you ask for it, if you need it. They do, they always pull together for people.

SPEAKER_02 26:11

Like they're what I wanted to say, too, is that that was That was a fun wedding, by the way. Which I was gonna say, that was the best wedding that was fun in terms of like that. It was like all the things.

SPEAKER_00 26:27

Right. They used the bridge and guidance.

SPEAKER_02 26:29

They treated me like I was royalty.

SPEAKER_00 26:31

Yeah, Saps covered bridge. It was gorgeous. It was real cool.

SPEAKER_02 26:34

I did like an actual nice ceremony. Yeah. That's the only I mean, I it's always nice. I always do like the thing, but some people want less or more, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 26:44

Right.

SPEAKER_02 26:45

But this was like they wanted the full regalia, right?

SPEAKER_00 26:48

Livby's Livy's wedding was nice, but it rained that day.

SPEAKER_02 26:51

Well, and also that was different because it was like my first one.

SPEAKER_00 26:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:56

And it was Olivia. Right. You know, my stepdaughter.

SPEAKER_00 27:01

Right.

SPEAKER_02 27:01

Sorry, I just scraped my hands there. But you'll hear that on the mic. Um, but you know what I'm saying? Like, we had none, can you imagine? We had that stupid Oh gosh. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 27:16

Setup with like we were trying to piece together equipment so he could be heard.

SPEAKER_02 27:19

It doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_00 27:20

It doesn't matter. Now we have a whole setup comedy.

SPEAKER_02 27:23

Yeah, it's like because I have the comedy thing now, I'm set up to do weddings, birthdays.

SPEAKER_00 27:28

Right. Oh, because we DJ'd um Timmy's reception. Yeah. We've both been wedding DJs. Both of us have.

SPEAKER_03 27:38

Right.

SPEAKER_00 27:38

So that's been a part of our thing. But anyways, so long story short, here we are in Johnstown.

SPEAKER_03 27:44

Wait.

SPEAKER_00 27:45

I just Oh, you want to talk about the third wedding? I got you've got some context in here.

SPEAKER_02 27:50

First off, well, because it's not an opportunity that I get to tell this story very often. So I'm first off, this is the only wedding where they've ever referred to me as the pastor.

SPEAKER_00 28:03

And I don't know what I am. Well, you were dressed really nice.

SPEAKER_02 28:07

I don't really go for anything. Like, no, I because I don't have a name like it's not like I'm I don't go by Reverend or I like Reverend Reed.

SPEAKER_00 28:16

I think it's sounding.

SPEAKER_02 28:17

We say that jokingly, right? Reverend Reed, because it sounds funny. Right. But I'm not like any sort of, you know, ordained meaning of it. You're not parochial. Yeah. But they kept calling me pastor. Yeah. This is my pastor.

unknown 28:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 28:34

You know me. I don't, I'll roll with it. I don't care. I'm doing their wedding. It was nice. I'm doing their wedding. They can say whatever they want. I don't care. It's not like any of those people there. First off, half of them know me. No.

SPEAKER_00 28:48

Right. Have known you for our entire relationship. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:54

So that's the reason they asked me to do

The Pastor Joke And Wedding Stories

SPEAKER_02 28:57

it. Yeah. But so anyway, so I'm hitting my vape, right? Yeah. And it you know how all these different vapes nowadays have these different names. And it was called Diablo something. It was called the Devil's. No, it was called like not the devil's lettuce, because that's obviously, you know, it was like the Devil's Lemons. That's what it was.

SPEAKER_00 29:25

That's exactly what it was. The Devil's Lemons.

SPEAKER_02 29:28

So it was called the Devil's Lemons. And so I'm and this is after the wedding, and I'm, you know, you know, I'm talking to them bullshitting, and I hit my vape, and he I was like, Do you want to hit this? And he he I was like, that's called the Devil's Lemons. And he says, You mean to tell me that I smoked weed with my pastor called the Devil's Lemons on my wedding day. That's fucking awesome. And I was like, Yep. I was like, that's the kind of things that I want to be known for in my life.

SPEAKER_00 30:05

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 30:06

Um but regardless of any of that, that's the story from that wedding. I mean, other than that, it was like totally normal and fun, and it was a typical Yeah, it was a normal, like country wedding.

SPEAKER_00 30:17

It was awesome. Yeah, it was true. Good food, as always. Oh, I mean, that crew always cooked up. Yeah, they they good food.

SPEAKER_01 30:24

Yeah, they always cook it up.

SPEAKER_00 30:25

So then we built this event space here at the house, and we were gonna start doing comedy shows here, and then we found out that we were going to be having a child here instead. So we're rearranging whatever, but we still it's still a nice room. You can do whatever you want with it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:44

Those toys come out of there super quick. Yes. But regardless of any of that, we have a multi, we have a big our living room is big.

SPEAKER_00 30:51

It's roughly 14 by 28.

SPEAKER_02 30:57

Yeah, I mean, that's a pretty good size room.

SPEAKER_00 31:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:00

It's for I mean, a living for a nor for a normal house living room. It's not like we're talking mansions here, obviously. Right. But I'm just saying, like, you can you can fit a quite a few people in there. Yeah. You know what I mean? We do for family events and stuff like that. So we fit can fit quite a few people in there. Right. Especially depending on how you what you kind of see me. We have benches built into the wall. Yeah. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 31:23

It's like a tiny banquet hall, really. Yeah, it's really, yeah, it's exactly what it's like. And um So one of my girlfriends, she reached out to me and she was like, Hey, I heard Scott is ordained, obviously, my sister telling everybody. And she was like, Hey, can Scott perform a ceremony for my daughter? They just want to do like a quickie thing, nothing fancy. Um they want to- I was like, of course, that's exactly what we do. So we still actually, I think we still had the Christmas tree up because I was dragging feet on taking it down this year.

SPEAKER_02 32:00

Um was it I don't know if it was late January or early February, but no, I was talking to one of the people that were here about the Steelers, but I don't remember if it was like in context to that was like a heck of a season or what is gonna happen next week.

SPEAKER_00 32:19

Oh, right. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 32:21

Like I don't know. I don't remember. I remember the conversation enough to remember it was about the Steelers. Right. But I don't remember.

SPEAKER_00 32:31

It was after you got your pizza oven though, because you had Yeah, I also we also went out there and looked at my pizza oven. Yeah. So it was after Christmas. But when did I get my pizza oven? A at Christmas time?

SPEAKER_01 32:45

No. Before. We cooked pizzas on it.

SPEAKER_00 32:50

Alright, let's just settle this. Let me have my. Alright. It was December. December 14th.

SPEAKER_01 33:03

Boy, do I got a good memory?

SPEAKER_00 33:06

Okay, so December 14th. You performed a ceremony for my longtime friend Brandy. Um, I've known Brandy since she was pregnant with Izzy, so that's kind of even cool too, because she used to hang out at my house when she was younger. She was young, maybe. I I don't want to throw Brandy under the bus, but she was a teenager, a young teenager. But I was pregnant with Dakota or had just had Dakota, maybe. So yeah, and I had known Davy. Um, so we all for people who listen to this podcast who aren't from Johnstown, it's broken up into like five-block neighborhoods all throughout the city. It's like a five-block neighborhood. And Moxham is one of those five-block neighborhoods. Um, but even Moxham, there's like Upper Moxham, Lower Moxam. Um, but Davies and his family grew up on Cyprus Avenue. And so, and we grew up at that end of Moxham, whatever that is, lower Moxam, um, by Cyprus school. So we all knew each other. Like there was so many kids that all grew up together. No. So I'm segueing into that because I've known these guys. I've also known so it's Izzy and Tayshawn, and I've also known Tayshan's parents for like my entire life.

SPEAKER_02 34:32

So you were just the the person you were just talking about was the brides. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:37

Davy is Davy and Brandy are Izzy's parents. And then the and um Tayshan. And Tayshan is Tasha and Bo's son.

SPEAKER_02 34:50

Okay, okay. And Tasha and Bo and I couldn't remember what I I couldn't remember what was Bud, not Bo.

SPEAKER_00 34:56

Bo Moore's a musician. Tasha and Bud are closer to my age.

SPEAKER_02 35:01

I knew what you meant though, that's why.

SPEAKER_00 35:02

Yeah. So like we've all we all knew each, like all the parents all kind of knew each other. I don't know if Davey and Bud were friends or knew each other or ran in the same circles, but we all did know each other because we were all like Johnstown Ferndale kids. Like the Dale, Hornerstown, Moxham kids all knew each other growing up. But, anyways, so fourth wedding. Let's talk about how to do a wedding the right way. Because yes, it was a quickie wedding.

SPEAKER_02 35:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:39

They were in here maybe 20 minutes.

SPEAKER_02 35:42

That was the most ideal wedding that I've done.

SPEAKER_00 35:45

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 35:46

I mean, I love a good regular get up. Yeah. It's a whole thing when you gotta go somewhere, dress up, get dress, do the whole thing. Like, at first, and then I'm drunk somewhere, and then I yeah, I don't like that. Anyway, a good uh you call me up and you're like, hey.

SPEAKER_00 36:10

I'm gonna be at your house at 12, and you're like, okay, let me throw some pants on. Right.

SPEAKER_02 36:15

And so I can do this thing. They're like, we want it to be the fastest, most effective way possible. We just want to get this done. But we're but then they brought like they had the whole uh everybody there was a lot of it was so the other quickie wedding that I did, there was no one else.

SPEAKER_00 36:37

Right, just the mom. Just my nephew's mom.

SPEAKER_02 36:40

So but this one they had their whole crew with them.

SPEAKER_00 36:43

Right, right. So it was like

The Fast Wedding That Feels Real

SPEAKER_00 36:46

parents were here, the mama was here, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:49

Yeah, like, and I didn't not that I cared, like, but but the point being is I didn't know that that was like because we would have catered.

SPEAKER_00 36:58

Shit. They ended up leaving to go each night.

SPEAKER_02 37:01

Yeah, I'd I it don't matter what they ate, but I would have had some I had just a pizza of a man. I'd have been cooking up some pizzas, they'd have had a good old time.

SPEAKER_00 37:11

Hell yeah. And that's that's the kind of people we are though. Like we like are we all friends now and hang out now? No. Like I see brandy when I see brandy, and I talk to Brandy when I see Brandy, but that's about it. I say hi when I'm out and about. Right, we've been interviewing. But we love to entertain people, I think. That's the gist of it, is that we love to entertain people.

SPEAKER_02 37:33

I'm always up for um I'm always up for a good time. You know what I mean? Like in the sense of like, I'm always willing to throw some something in the smoker.

SPEAKER_00 37:44

Right. Exactly. Chill and just, you know, and now we never we have an excuse to now we are always our house.

SPEAKER_02 37:52

We are always cooking. How many times? Well, yesterday we got to cook for the first time in a long time. I mean, in terms of like for other people.

SPEAKER_00 38:04

Right.

SPEAKER_02 38:05

On a large scale.

SPEAKER_00 38:06

So the whole reason I'm even talking about it is because I want to highlight the fact that three of the weddings you've done ended very quickly. Very quickly. This wedding is going to last, and here is why. One, they have been together for six years before they decide to get married. They're coming around to seven years.

SPEAKER_02 38:32

This is by far the most legitimate wedding.

SPEAKER_00 38:36

The most legitimate wedding.

SPEAKER_02 38:39

All my other ones, this up until now I've not really done a legitimate wedding, were the people I thought were like in love.

SPEAKER_06 38:46

In love.

SPEAKER_02 38:48

They were the first people that I met that I performed a wedding for that I actually thought were in love.

SPEAKER_00 38:54

Yeah. And that so they've been together for coming up. So I sent Izzy some questions, and she was gracious enough to give me some intel. So I'm just gonna tell you some of them. So I said, How did you treat me? And she said, I didn't know Tayshan before we met. He added me on Snapchat, and then a few days later asked me if I wanted to go eat with him. And so she's very shy and awkward unless she really, really knows somebody, right? So she said she did finally grow out of that phase. But um she said yes, and they went to Denny's at like nine at night, and she said, I don't think I said more than 10 words, but I did devour my pancake and eggs. And then afterwards, she said they just talked for a while and started hanging out. And he said that at first he thought that she was super dry, and that he almost stopped talking to her because she was too shy and awkward. Um, I mean, that's how things happen. That's so sweet though. And then she said it just kind of clicked that he was her person, and they have just been together for a long time, but I am super excited to be allowed to announce that they are expecting their first baby. I don't know if they know the the gender of the baby yet.

SPEAKER_02 40:27

So one of the so that's the only child that any of the marriages that I performed have produced.

SPEAKER_00 40:35

Yeah, it is. I mean it is the only child that any of the marriages you've performed produced. And she's four months long, and um what does she want to say about Tay? That he acts like a tough guy when people are around. Uh, I know who he got that from, his father. Um, but when it's just the two of them, he's like a big teddy bear. So I I'd say that that's a lot of alpha males. Tay's a man's man. You know what I mean? Like he's a man's man. Um his dad's a man's man. His uncles are all men's man or cousins or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 41:26

So, like you have a better say of that than I do, I don't really.

SPEAKER_00 41:31

But it generally speaking, most guys that are like that are generally softies on the inside when they're just comfortable in their own setting.

SPEAKER_02 41:41

Even because here's the thing, is even the toughest person has mu has a mother. Do you know what I mean? So even so even if you go through I mean, for the most part, you know.

SPEAKER_00 41:56

And he has an amazing mother. Tasha, oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 42:01

She's just that's how like I mean, that's how it gets you always have balance like that.

SPEAKER_00 42:08

But so I but as an outsider, and you know I'm a people watcher, so this is what I want to say to close this segment out is that because I've been friend friends with Brandy for so long, I've kind of been watching their relationship from afar because I do know other parents. Right, right, right, right. And it's not like I've You're aware of it. I uh right. I've been aware of their relationship for a long time, and I see each of their parents like posting about them and things like that. And in the back of my mind this whole time, I was like, these kids are going to be these kids are gonna succeed together. Like I was rooting for them before they even knew who I might be. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 42:45

Like just because to show you that a lot of times thing, I mean, how often do you know you know when people are like gonna be you know when people are a good team and when they're a good team. Because like like I said, you and I we could also identify the train wrecks that would be the other ones that you see.

SPEAKER_00 43:10

You know it going into it. You know it's not a good thing. Are you surprised every once in a while? Sure.

SPEAKER_02 43:17

Absolutely. You get thrown a few curveballs here and there when you see something wild happens or whatever, and you're like, I didn't see that, Kevin. But for the most part, you can tell pretty easily like who is gonna make it and who's not and who's good together and who's not.

SPEAKER_00 43:34

Right, absolutely. And I've been rooting for these two, and um so I asked her what she thought made their relationship successful, and she's like they lift each other up all the time, they're always rooting for each other. We're rooting for you guys too, kiddos, because this generation needs some strong couples to impart wisdom to the next generation. That's exactly right.

SPEAKER_02 43:58

There's gotta be some that make the Through.

SPEAKER_00 44:00

And I'm very excited for this baby. This baby is a Johnstown legacy.

SPEAKER_02 44:06

There you go.

SPEAKER_00 44:07

Johnstown legacy baby. Yeah, legacy baby.

SPEAKER_02 44:10

Now that you've explained to me the generational whatever, the family tree you call it.

SPEAKER_00 44:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:20

Um, yeah, I mean it's a Johnstown. It's like uh, what's he say?

SPEAKER_01 44:25

Uh finally the oh, what's the name when it crashes? The lodges and the what's he say?

SPEAKER_02 44:39

Do you know what I'm talking about then? No. Where he's like, Oh, he's talking about two great families uniting.

SPEAKER_00 44:47

Oh, really? Yeah, when he decides to propose to what's her name.

SPEAKER_02 44:52

But Christopher Walken does this. He says something about these two great families coming together.

SPEAKER_00 44:58

And it just made me think of that because it's like you know, but in my mind, so it's it's even deeper than that because it's four families coming together, right? Right. Because I'm like I know all the parents, right? Right, oh absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 45:11

Well that's why I'm saying it's like it's it's just uh yeah, that has nothing to do with what they're I just meant the speech about great failure.

SPEAKER_00 45:18

Yeah, that's hilarious.

SPEAKER_02 45:20

But um it it is, it's like one of those things where it's like, you know, you can trace it, it's like all in one, you know.

SPEAKER_00 45:31

Yeah, like right. And there they're it actually that's it, it's defined. Um, so baby on the way, I'm so excited. Um, but so earlier you mentioned um what were we talking about L Ron for? Or Scientology? Oh, John Travolta.

SPEAKER_02 45:58

We were talking about John Travolta, and we brought up, and I was like, oh, L. Ron Hubbard, because he's not exactly the type of person. Now, I mean, you know what? I'm gonna say it.

SPEAKER_01 46:12

I was gonna say, should we even be mindful of the Scientologist? That might be.

SPEAKER_00 46:19

If there's any Scientologists listening to us, it's purely for reasons.

SPEAKER_02 46:22

If there's nobody that's listening to us that is like, you shouldn't talk shit on Scientologists. They're stupid.

SPEAKER_00 46:30

Right, exactly. There's no other game for them.

SPEAKER_02 46:34

Come on now. Come on now. If you really just go do your own research if you have any doubts on Scientology and who L. Ron Hubbard was. But regardless of any of that, what this brings us to is con men.

SPEAKER_00 46:48

Right. Well, because we watched, uh, well, let's go, we're gonna go backwards. We're gonna start here

Scientology To Con Men And True Crime

SPEAKER_00 46:56

and take you guys through a history of this bullshit. Talking about human archetypes, talking about all of that. We watched Maternal Instinct on Netflix.

SPEAKER_02 47:07

Everybody was talking about it.

SPEAKER_00 47:09

Everybody's talking about it.

SPEAKER_02 47:11

And well, first off, they're talking about it because it is like the most wild shit you will ever hear.

SPEAKER_00 47:17

It's the most horrific. I'm worried about a possible outcome. Because here I was just riding the wave, giggling at a fucking weirdo.

SPEAKER_02 47:26

Like the normal documentary where nobody dies. Like, I don't want to talk about like what actually happens because it's horrid.

SPEAKER_00 47:37

It's horrid, but we did not see it coming. Like, I didn't know the story, and I and it's and I don't like to Google if I'm going to watch a documentary where I totally don't know the story, right? I'm just gonna jump right in and more.

SPEAKER_02 47:52

Especially one where the outcome is known. If it's a who done it, right, it's a little different because you know they don't know.

SPEAKER_00 48:00

Right. And I want to see who's saying what and start forming some kind of like just to start to get a feel for these different people that maybe they're not presenting.

SPEAKER_02 48:08

Because here's the thing is every documentary sort of has a little bit of bias. Right. They don't know if they're like presenting one case more so than the other. So it's good to but when it's when you when it's a outcome that's already been established, which this one was Right.

SPEAKER_00 48:24

I don't want to know what the onion's gonna be.

SPEAKER_02 48:26

Right, exactly. And this was a and here's the thing is as consumers of true crime, whether that be podcast, TV shows, documentaries, whatever. Books, books or all that the this is one of the most craziest, wildest things that I've heard. Like, I mean, this is horrific. This is the type of shit. Sorry, God. Um this is the type of shit that somebody makes up for a movie or a weird.

SPEAKER_00 49:15

You would think, right? You would not think that people like this exist in real life. And so, but here's why why I even was like, hell yes, we're doing this as a podcast episode, subject meat and potatoes, because we talked about it before, but I didn't lay the whole thing out because none of you know this person that is listening to this podcast unless some of my TikTok friends have made their way over here somehow. But there's they did thanks for the listeners. Yeah, hey, what's up? Um, you found logic, reason, common sense, and nerds. Um, because remember, fucking frog bitch, I told you this podcast is not for you. Um, anyways, so no, I told somebody on TikTok that she's like, oh, you're you're four listeners. And I was like, first of all, bitch, I have 52 subscribers on my YouTube channel. Second of all, this podcast is not for you. It's for smart people.

SPEAKER_02 50:19

What did she say? How many? Four. Okay. So we get like sometimes we get like how many downloads?

SPEAKER_00 50:29

I don't know. Yeah, one of our episodes has like over uh it has uh 180 downloads.

SPEAKER_02 50:36

Yeah, that's not like that. I mean, I'm not saying that's crazy good.

SPEAKER_00 50:40

People aren't listening to a right, exactly. I'm not right, but here's the thing is I enjoy having these conversations with you.

SPEAKER_02 50:50

Yeah, it's I don't give a shit.

SPEAKER_00 50:51

This is fun for you. But regardless. But regardless of all that. So back in September, um, I was dragged into court. Back in September, I was dragged into court twice by the same TikTok creator. Um who have we talked about that? We kind of talked about it because we joked about it. Like we joked because it we recorded right after the second or the so then I was like, fuck this bitch, I'm taking her to court. Because in the state of Maryland, you don't have to have proof or evidence that somebody is allegedly doing something to you. You just have to go file the paperwork and boom, you're in the system, right? And so I was hesitant to really talk about it because I was afraid how it was gonna look on paper when we were trying to get our foster clear. Right. Like this bitch wants to be a mom, but she's doing TikTok drama. But no, that's not what was happening. Exactly. Like, that's literally not what was happening. What was happening was I communicated to somebody that was a mutual friend of ours that I thought she was lying about her medical conditions. And I've learned, thanks to one of my TikTok friends, that that is called malingering when you like use

TikTok Lies That End Up In Court

SPEAKER_00 52:08

real like things that happen to other people and like in a medical sense they make them your own. Oh, right. It's like Munchausen's, but it's like not that it's not quite. It's not you're not diagnosed with a disease, you just do it. Like you don't have because Munchausen's people like sometimes believe that they have the stuff.

SPEAKER_01 52:28

I just want to say that I don't like saying words that have G's and R's together like that.

SPEAKER_00 52:33

What?

SPEAKER_01 52:34

Malingering.

SPEAKER_00 52:35

Malinger?

SPEAKER_01 52:36

No, I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_00 52:36

Oh, that's my new favorite word.

SPEAKER_01 52:38

No, I don't like saying words.

SPEAKER_00 52:40

I don't know why, but I just this was bothering me. Um, anyways. I can't I was staring at it, you know, Bow C D. But anyways, so and I'm gonna say her name because most people that doesn't matter. It's not defamation. I'm just telling the truth.

SPEAKER_02 52:56

Amanda's the greater point.

SPEAKER_00 52:58

I call her Scamanda, but there is a Scamanda, and we'll get into that. But Amanda makes a pattern of telling lies.

SPEAKER_02 53:09

She's a serial liar.

SPEAKER_00 53:11

She's a serial liar. But what is alarming about that, and we're gonna talk more about it, I think, in depth, is how much of the truth she rides. She rides so much, she rides like 90% of the truth in her stories, and I would even venture to say 95 in some stories. She rides it so far on the line of the truth that any lay person who does not give a fuck is gonna stop there and stop looking. It's she sounds coherent enough, she sticks to the facts enough.

SPEAKER_02 53:46

As two people who are particularly good at lie detecting. Yeah, we are. You are a great natural. You're like, I think of the show because you're the natural lie detector. I'm Cal Lightman. I'm that way because I studied as a liar when I was a drug addict and stuff. You know the So I know all the mechanisms. Yeah, because I used them to that's exactly right.

SPEAKER_00 54:15

So can we just talk about that for a second?

SPEAKER_02 54:18

What?

SPEAKER_00 54:18

Because remember the time that I made you go stand in front of a place and take a picture.

SPEAKER_02 54:24

Wait a second.

SPEAKER_00 54:27

That's how good a line you were. I didn't there was a point in your addiction where I didn't believe you so much that I needed verification of verification of all.

SPEAKER_02 54:37

Even then, I still skirted.

SPEAKER_00 54:39

I know, I know you did, but I'm just saying, you know, you definitely know the length that somebody would go to to the other side.

SPEAKER_02 54:46

Well, that's just it. And I think that, but it also makes me great at detecting when somebody it I instantly know because I've I can smell it like in a way, it's like I said, it's like Cal Lightman. Well, it's like I see the things, and it's like, I'm I you can't run game on me, do you?

SPEAKER_00 55:06

Right. Well, so here's the part that takes it even further. When you've got two people that are as smart as we are, and well, to in today's current state, we have no reason to lie to each other. Like so it's it's almost moot, but like I know that a mechanism of lying is giving too much detail, but then when you and I know that you know that, so if you don't give enough detail, then I flip it and think that you're trying to lie to me by not giving detail because you know that I know the mechanism.

SPEAKER_02 55:40

Because you know that I know that you know that I know that you know that I know what you're up to.

SPEAKER_00 55:46

Yeah, that's exactly it.

SPEAKER_02 55:48

And no, absolutely, and that's the thing about it is because it's like, well, then, but then you get into like, am I reading too much into it? Right. Am I like because some well, because like sometimes uh you you'll think that I am lying about something and not even nothing crazy, no, no, no, no. I don't mean like say because I don't do anything crazy.

SPEAKER_00 56:11

But you but now you also give yourself away. So like if I ask him if he had a pre-dinner whopper, he starts to giggle, even if he intended to lie to me about where he was.

SPEAKER_02 56:23

As an expert liar, and for the reason that I am an expert liar, is I hate lying because my life was unmanageable as a liar.

SPEAKER_00 56:37

I've never been a big liar. The only the worst I've lied about is how much I spend on Fandle. That's like my worst lie in my entire life, is how much I spend on Fandle. And I like I hate lying so bad that there's some things that I refuse to lie about, even if it's a like what we refer to as like a little white lie. Right.

SPEAKER_02 56:55

I know you don't like it. I mean, we do still occasionally do it.

SPEAKER_00 56:59

Like I want the bells every once in a while if I need to. Right.

SPEAKER_02 57:03

Right. We might do a stretch here or there, as my grandma would say, a gray lie.

SPEAKER_00 57:09

Right. But it depends on the audience, and if I'm to most of it's me trying to get out of doing something that I don't want to do. That's most of where my lying goes.

SPEAKER_02 57:20

Absolutely. And it does right. Now it's all just because I don't want to say anything because I wouldn't continue to get out of said things. But I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_00 57:32

But regardless of that, so we are both good lie detectors, obviously. Right.

SPEAKER_02 57:37

And smell coming a mile.

SPEAKER_00 57:39

And Amanda on TikTok, she talks about her medical conditions all the time.

SPEAKER_02 57:46

I also want to say that both of us will do this. Now to each other, we do not do this, but to outsiders, and I think you've done a lot of this on TikTok, is we even I'm not gonna let you recognize that I understand that you're lying. In most situations.

SPEAKER_00 58:05

Oh, I'll go with it.

SPEAKER_02 58:06

I do not unless it's gonna interfere with my life somehow, I don't even bring it up because I don't give a shit.

SPEAKER_00 58:15

Well, and so here's here's where the the kind of overall question is how long do you let a bullshitter live in their bullshit before it becomes dangerous to other people?

SPEAKER_02 58:27

That's exactly right. And the thing is, is some people go through their life. Most normal bullshitters go through life and it's enough it it doesn't cause them too many problems. But you know the type.

SPEAKER_00 58:40

It's like fish stories, they're big fish, are right?

SPEAKER_02 58:42

Right, absolutely. And most people don't take it.

SPEAKER_00 58:47

Sorry.

SPEAKER_02 58:48

Most people don't take it any further than that. We all know people like that. You meet them at the bar or whoever, they bullshit. And you everybody knows that they're a bullshitter. Right. But those people don't cause anybody any problems. Nope. But these people that we're talking about are the people that take those things to extremes. Extremes. And that's definitely one thing that she's done. You know the type, because it they exist out there. We all know a couple where they like lie about serious medical conditions.

SPEAKER_00 59:18

Lie about being the victim of abuse.

SPEAKER_02 59:20

Right.

SPEAKER_00 59:21

Uh it's also it's sympathy farming. Right. It's all sympathy farming. Right, right. Sympathy farming is a whole personality where people get their their fucking serotonin spikes from people feeling bad for them.

SPEAKER_02 59:38

Right. And then there's the right. Those are the that's the type that we're dealing with here.

SPEAKER_00 59:45

But I And you see it a lot on social media because it it plays right into the model.

SPEAKER_02 59:51

It made a lot of people that otherwise wouldn't have that ability to else are they gonna try to a new audience.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:00

Right. Now they have an audience. Before it was like they had to go to the hospital and just get their shits and giggles from the nurses that felt bad for them in the candy fucking street.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:08

They had to they move through everybody in their own circle until eventually they have no one. Right. And then they would move, start trying to find new people, but that's as far as they could take it. But with the internet and social media, they can continue this in a way that they've never they can take it to extremes and never even dreamed of.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:28

But my like on social media, I'm I catch things. So like I won't remember the details that somebody said, you know, I went to Walmart at 4 p.m. on Saturday. I'll never remember any of that, but I catch the nuance and and like the theme, and that stays somewhere with me. So when someone contradicts themselves, I might not be able to like go back and find it immediately, but I have a network of friends and I'll be like, hey, remember when Amanda said this? Well, now she's saying this. And I just I'm a I hold a mirror up to people. That's all I do. I don't sit there and pick apart somebody's personality. I mean, I talk shit on somebody's personality, but I'm not making assumptions. I don't like to infer or nuance that somebody's one way or the other. If enough people are saying it and I can find one or two things that lead me to believe it, then it's probably true. And I'm gonna clock that and I'm gonna look for that the next time I hear you speak. All I do is cut people and remind them of when they said something different. That's all I do. And it's fun for me because it helps me to recognize patterns. And I've also learned a lot of lessons. I've learned about jumping on bandwagons. Uh one of the biggest lessons that I learned with Amanda is it like if you sit in, like if you don't have any bias filter, right? Or filter bias, or bias filter, like I fucking hate this bitch because she almost because she tried, she knew that we were trying to become foster family, and she put me in the system in Maryland.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:15

Well, yeah, that's exactly. Here's the whole thing about it. That we're talking about something that's not happening in real life. It is real life.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:26

She took it to real life.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:28

Well, that's what I'm getting at. Is it this is something that existed online only prior to anything? Right. It should never go to real life. There should never be. I'm not saying that there shouldn't be like you can do whatever you want on the internet.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:44

Right, you shouldn't be. And that's where the gray areas are right now because there's no real legislation.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:50

And the thing is, is like, do I think that the internet should be a free-for-all? No, but I also don't think that it should be easy for people to like dox people, so to speak, for no re real reason. I mean, you know what I mean? We're not talking about something crazy. We're talking about you're talking shit on her. Right. She's talking shit on you. Right. Like we're talking about a- And that's all well and good.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:16

Like, if we would have left it there, she made a video telling everybody my real name and who I work for, which I had managed to keep like private. She told them that I was using my company information.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:31

Right. She took it to the ultimate extreme.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:34

I mean, basically tried to have me fired from my career job, right? But I took it to their legal team. I went right to work the next day and was like, here's the video.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:44

Listen, do it the way you straight up perjured herself.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:47

She per oh my God, so many times.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:50

Because we've verified with the company that she has not worked for them. They can't does not work for them. They can't find her in her system, at least in the systems that they have, which say go back maybe 10 years or something. Right. Even if, and I'm just lowballing that. I don't know that that's the fact, but I'm just saying, let's say that that's all the further back it goes. She literally said in court, still I still work for them. Right. Like that's perjury. You're under oath testifying in a case, that's perjury. Right. So, like the fact that she's willing to perjure herself for something so freaking stupid to maintain a lie about where you work.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:34

Well, and not even that, the whole thing, the whole premise of her saying that I the premise was a lie. She went to court twice and filed documentation two times saying that I was harassing her online.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:51

Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:52

When I didn't even contact her, I had not been on contact with it. I texted a mutual friend and said, Hey, Amanda's video about having a stroke looks suspicious to me. Maybe I'll post about that later for some fun because that's what we do on TikTok. Amanda was on TikTok filming her ambulance ride, telling all of God's internet that she was having a stroke.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:16

Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:17

So I thought that that looked sus and I wanted to say something about it. And I didn't even get to say something about it that day because I was had charges two days later. Well, not charges, but I had to appear for court two days. They had filed charges against me for harassment before I even made the fucking video.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:38

And the point of all this, though, is this was a long repeated pattern. This wasn't like you pulled this out of thin air. Like you just seen this video. This person was already doing this every time something came up, medical emergency. She was every time something come up, medical emergency.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:57

She was like talking. In a live one night, and somebody like I don't remember exactly what happened, but somebody went in on her, and I know who that somebody is, but I refuse to say his name because I don't want any attention. Um, went in on her, and she allegedly had a seizure and was in the hospital for three days over somebody yelling at her. This man lives in the Northeast, and you live in Maryland, and you had a seizure over him yelling at you on the internet. Like, what the fuckity fuck, fuck, fuck. I can't take it. But the point of the medical thing is that we're seeing this pattern now. Like, we were like, okay, so who else has done this? Taylor Parker from Maternal Instinct. Before she did what she did, she had a long running history of faking cancer. Faking.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:57

Yep, doing, and the thing is, is then look at the other one, Scamanda. Was that the one that did the cancer thing?

SPEAKER_00 1:07:05

Belle Gibson did, Scamanda did. They all did.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:08

So this is like a running trend now. Just when you're gonna do it.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:12

It's almost like somebody wrote a book on how to scam people out of money, and one of the chapters is you have brain cancer.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:21

It's just one of those things. When you're a scammer, you try there's different things that and you learn what scam you learn. You know what I mean? Like there's you come across these for various reasons, right the company you keep or how you were raised or whatever. Right. You learn these skills.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:46

Right. But so in Amanda's case, though, she's not actually, she does have GoFundMe's, and I'm not saying that she doesn't have

Sympathy Farming And Fake Illness Playbooks

SPEAKER_00 1:07:55

medical conditions. So they may be legit. What I'm saying is that somewhere in the middle of all that, she's telling people all she just runs lies all the time. So, like, scam in a different sense, because I don't think she's not looking to scam people out of money by saying she's not running a particular scam.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:18

She's just a lot, a serial liar. That's the best term for her. And we all know people like that. Right. I'm sure you probably know one in your life. Right. And some of it is a drug, sometimes are drug addicts. That's a common time uh theme. People that are drug addicts are usually serial liars, but it's they can also be just serial liars outside of being a drug addict. Some people are just like that naturally.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:45

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:46

Where they're already doing that and then they're a drug addict, and so it just rolls right into it.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:50

But she has a history of doing it. And with Amanda, I and I know I keep coming back to her because we have other people to talk about. But the thing that drives me insane is like what I was saying is she actually has probably a weird, has grown up kind of weird of a life. But like, so there was a cold case, there is a cold case in Frederick, Maryland, and I can't remember, it's Tracy Fitzpatrick. Or yeah, Tracy Fitzpatrick. That is still a cold case to this day. Amanda's father, her biological father, who did not raise her, right, Donald Barnes, was a suspect because he was a security guard there. But do you know who's keeping that threat alive on all social media?

SPEAKER_06 1:09:38

Her.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:39

Amanda and her boyfriend, husband, whatever he is.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:43

Right. Well, and but this brings us to a greater, like, back, like uh, we're that where we're going is tying this out to a greater point. Right. Which is that, first off, the and she's one person disrupting, you know, all these things. But think about all these people that are out there that are like this that you know in your own life that are like you we all know people like that that are like, I'm not saying that they're super common, but you we all know because most people cut those people out of their life, they get cut out of like every single thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:20

Or there's a way to deal with them. Like you deal with them, like you said, there are certain people that just you know they're a bullshitter, you'd be like, Oh, yeah, really, you did that. Okay, cool. And you let it go. But when they're actually going after people in real life or they're like harming somebody, uh hurting somebody's reputation in a malicious way.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:42

Well, that's what I'm saying. These people, the the these people are that's why I said they're rare, but they're not that rare because they get cut out of most people's lives, because they're always looking to actually scam whatever it is uh like they're looking to run game on you somehow. Right. Even if it's something small or whatever, right? Because that's how they operate in life. Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:05

So they're and for some people it's goods or things, and for some people it's that serotonin.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:11

Yep, you're exactly right. It's all part of the same thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:15

Um we were talking about human archetypes and how people's personalities are what I mean, they just are what they are. You get, you know what you're getting in a lot of cases once you've had the opportunity to talk to somebody, right? Unless they're a good con, unless they're a good liar. And then you don't know. And they sound sane, they sound so credible.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:42

And they have been through, and we only have recorded, you know, you know, been certain things that the but I'm sure it's shown up even back in the way, you know, BC.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:53

Right, right.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:54

I didn't think there was always people probably trying to scam people.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:58

Oh, for sure. I mean, you've got the concept of snake oil salesmen and all of that. Right. But I'm sure in biblical times there were people who were not who who pretended to be other people, right? To to do or whatever, right? We know. But f as when we start getting documented history, right? One of the earliest cases is Cassie Chadwick, and that was in the 1800s, and she actually claimed to be Andrew Carnegie's daughter and received millions of dollars from banks who assumed that they were gonna get paid back.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:39

Wow. Like That's wild to think that back then you could just it's almost like the invention of lying where he's just like, you know, like he he's like, I need uh $800. Right. And they're like, well, it must be wrong.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:56

The bank must be wrong. Here you go. Here's your $800.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:59

But do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 1:13:00

It's like it's like they just had no There was just a trust of people.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:06

And if somebody's believable and has a story, it just goes

Famous Impostors And Why Cons Work

SPEAKER_02 1:13:11

so the mechanisms change, obviously, throughout time. Right. But it's the same thing. They do it's the same, they're doing the same thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:21

And if she was able to ride the facts close enough and look the part, then a bank president is not going to want to embarrass Andrew Carnegie by saying, Hey, your illegitimate daughter was in here. Can you verify? Right. They're just gonna go about their business and be like, it's so wild. And then we've actually saw this case from a couple different angles because of all the different things that we watched. But Anna Anderson, who pretended to be Anastasia Romanoff.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:56

Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:56

And to this day, I don't even know if they've debunked it.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:59

I think that they did I think they did debunk it.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:02

Finally debunked it. Oh, because they found the Romanov remains of they finally found Anastasia. But that's a cool, it's a but it led to so many um great, obviously, just the Disney movie Anastasia is pretty cool. Um I actually took Dakota to see that when she was little. That was cool. Um, but this is the one that blew my ever-loving mind. So before I talk about him, let's just talk about the fact that one of our absolute favorite movies, favorite movies is Catch Me If You Can. Yes. First of all, Leo DiCabrio is masterful in it. And Christopher Walken.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:44

Tommy Hanks.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:46

Tommy Hanks. It's a great movie. It's a great movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:50

Oh, it's a fantastic movie. And it it's but that's his whole thing. He's a con man, and it's a semi-true story. The move it is a true story, but the movie's a very strong.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:02

Right. It's embellished.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:04

Of course, like every Hollywood thing, and take some liberties with the truth.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:08

However, what I was amazed to find out is that before Frank Abignell, in the 1940s through the 1960s, there was another figure doing relatively the same thing, and his name is Ferdinand Waldo De Mara. DeMara.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:28

Yeah, he wasn't casting checks, but he was impostering all sorts of different things.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:35

He posed as a monk, as a prison official. So that was the only time he was on a show. It was with um Groucho Marx. Groucho Marks show, and he said, Yes, I have been to prison, but it was because he posed as a prison guard in Texas and got away with it.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:53

And my favorite though, was he signs up for the Canadian Navy as a surgeon.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:03

Because at when he was a monk, he met this guy, this actual doctor, Dr. Sear. He used that doctor's credentials to sign up for the Canadian Navy to go fight in Korea.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:15

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:16

He ends up, he's on this ship. They need him to save the lives of all these South Korean soldiers.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:21

He was like 17 or 21 soldiers.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:23

He saves, he does all these surgeries. He goes in his room, reads his book on doing surgery. Right. And does all these surgeries, saves these guys' lives. He was a hero.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:34

A hero.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:35

And then he got charged.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:37

Right, because they because he used somebody else's credentials, but he I think he escaped, maybe. I don't know. I think he escaped.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:45

I don't know, but I think he I don't know the exact history of it, but it doesn't matter, regardless of any of that. But you had mentioned when we were talking about it earlier, that he was he did not look like somebody who would do he did not look like somebody that would be a con man per se. And but here's the thing is if you are a con man and you're fortunate enough in life to have a look that doesn't make you look like that, then that's just an added part to your game. It's like a natural, but any other natural thing that you like you have an advantage of. Like if you if you're tall and you play basketball, you're gonna be better than I mean, not necessarily, but you know what I mean. Like you have a this advantage. Or if you you know what I mean, it's the same sort of thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:38

Like if you look like an all-American good guy, people are going to treat you like an all-American good guy. That's why people also say you shouldn't get tattoos and you shouldn't do this and you shouldn't do that.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:51

It just goes back to my point about getting haircuts. Like, here's the thing, that's a thing you don't think about. Is so look at most of the people you can you can pick out a drug addict coming from a mile away.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:15

I know I can.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:17

But and I think most people have most of them are pretty obvious, but the ones that you don't know are the ones that like know how to keep a look that at least they can blend in as a regular person. You know what I'm saying? Right because then that allows you to maneuver uh differently.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:37

Right, which brings it back around. I'm just gonna drop this in here and then I'm gonna let it go. Amanda uses filters on social media. And when I say use uses filters, those filters are fucking working out. Well, they're doing hell.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:55

I'll say this like from what you originally showed me, which was like her filtered pictures, like originally, which I didn't, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:06

I mean, but let's be fair, the filtered pictures are pretty. She looks very pretty. It's not she's a bigger girl in the pictures, but she looks pretty.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:15

Regardless of any of that, what I was gonna say is like I those are the only pictures I saw. Now, I never thought that I would see her in real life, but unfortunately, due to court, we saw her on video, and I was like, is that the same person? Because like if you walked into a room and I was supposed to pick her out of a lineup based on the pictures I'd seen previously, like it's not, I mean, it's just not even in the same realm of Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:46

It's not the same face paper. Like when I use filters, I use it to fix my makeup.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:55

Yeah, most people that use filters just use it to like, you know, smooth up their wrinkles or whatever. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 1:20:02

Like they don't change their whole but it also made me stop using filters as much because just because uh I want people to know what I really look like. Right. Hers is that egregious that I'm like, fuck it. Is that what people see me as? I don't want anybody to be scared of what I I don't want anybody to be jump scared of what I look like in real life if they would ever meet me and don't know me, right? Really so but it's wild, but yeah, but regardless, so wow but it plays into this. Yeah people believe people who look nice. The part.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:39

That's part of the running good game is looking the part. That's half the battle.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:44

And sounding like you know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:47

That's half when you're trying to deceive someone, you want to look the part. You want to sound like you know what you're talking about, you want you know what I mean? Like you have to act through it in a way, and part of that, like I said, um the bigot 50% of it is looking like the whatever you're trying to do.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:07

Right. Which, so like both of these w have documentaries, so I don't want to drain them, but Anna Delve and Elizabeth Holmes.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:15

Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:16

Both of those bitches looked the part. They were believed the part, acted the part, said the right things. Here's one that also has a documentary, so I'm not gonna drain, but it blows me away. So I don't know if you remember the Nicholas Rossi documentation. He was like getting people to go overseas and shit. Right for to film for him and shit. For he was sight unseen, they had never met the real Nicholas Ross or the person who they believed they were working for. This was all done via internet. No, they might have had phone calls with people, but he was using people to scam on the phone and shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:59

Well, that brings up a great point because you so we know about all the like previous scams. You would think that like back in 1900 it'd been easier to scam. It was only it was only as easy as it is now. Right. Because people still do it. And like that goes back to the point of it just the the mechanism changes for the time and the place.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:20

Right. But it's the same people who find the weakness looking for your weaknesses, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:22:27

And they know how to exploit that and they use the same tricks on your mind that are built in from long, long ago. Absolutely. They they play on those same things within your mind to trick you.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:43

Right. And some people are better at some types than others, and some people can do like the the Demeras of the world and the Avignals of the world, they are intelligent. Like they're really intelligent.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:58

And that brings up another point. Not everybody's looking to scam someone per se. Right. They're looking to they get their rush from just completing the scam. From yeah, they get their rush from something different. They're that's their game is outsmarting you.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:15

That's it. It's outsmarting you. Yeah. That's exactly it. So you've got like your con artists who are actually scamming people out of money goods, whatever.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:27

And usually they aren't as intelligent as the ones that we're talking about.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:31

Right. Your screen con artists are your like low level, like they're your duffelbag boys. Right. I mean, they're just they're like the lowest of the low when it comes to those type of scams. Yeah. And then you've got like your your heist people, maybe are a little bit above that because heist people, they're running a con because they got to get to know the people that own the shit and stuff like that. Right. I'm not talking about like a general, I'm talking about your people like Oceans 11 type heist people. Those are the next level up from that.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:03

Boston Art Museum heist.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:05

Right. Like they're in it for the money and they're good at what they do and they're intelligent, but most of the time they don't want to be known. They they're not doing it for like any type of fame or anything like that. They want to run under the radar. But when you start getting into the people that are doing it for like the spikes of the rush of the feeling, that's where it kind of cannot be dangerous.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:31

Well, and that's where these other people, like Amanda and like these some of these other women that we've seen documentary, the maternal instincts.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:41

They're men do it too. I'm not implying that. I'm just saying we watch documentaries on those too.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:45

Right. Um, but but the women seem to do it more for the rush.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:51

Well, and I think women are a little better at it because unfortunately. Yeah, women are naturally better at tricking men.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:59

Absolutely. Men are dumb.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:01

I mean, let's be real.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:03

On a grand scale.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:04

And a woman can trick a man if she wants to. Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:07

And I mean, obviously, but the men, but it seems like the men that are doing it, like like Demara, are again, like, they just it's it's an inner power.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:20

Or how about even that one doctor guy that had all them different wives? Dr. John. Yeah, like that's the same type of thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:29

Same thing. It's a power move.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:30

It's a power move. And but but again, there's uh so so many different levels of this, but this one in particular, it's like it's not about necessarily a scam for money. Right. Some sometimes they do that too, right? But a lot of them, it's more about the love of the game. Right. I mean, it's like they just it's what they do.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:56

So we'll close it out on this one, um, because it wasn't even on my list, but even Gypsy Rose Blanchard, she's like a combination of all those things because like she scammed the producers of the goddamn documentary when she was, you know what I mean, when this all came out, because we all believe that Dee Dee was a horrible person.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:17

Some people can't not scam. They can't it like her, like I'm saying, like, even when you think that they're do it's all part of an even bigger scam. It's like it's like a Russian nesting dolls of scams.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:31

Right. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 1:26:32

Like when you think you've peeled back the layer, there's another 32 dolls underneath that.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:37

Oh, it's you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 1:26:39

Like with some of these people. Right. It's like And here's the thing is like, because of having lived a life of managing lies. It's so exhausting. So try like to imagine to try to keep up with it for no like a drug addict, I understand, because like there, I it's an end to a means.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:01

Right, right.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:02

But with some of the like to but to just do it for no reason whatsoever, see it to me, it's just way it's mind-blowing because, like, why would you want to put that stress on yourself?

SPEAKER_00 1:27:14

Right, because and to in today's day and age, everything is verifiable. That's the other thing. But most of these people are banking on people not taking that step.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:25

Well, not only not taking that step, but not really knowing how to take that step. Because how many people do you know that know absolutely nothing about looking stuff up?

SPEAKER_00 1:27:35

Looking stuff up, I know. Or anything.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:37

Like that's the reason that scam still exists is because we still have people in our population not calling out the but it's not just the elderly. It's I mean, you I guarantee you there's a bunch of 20 year old kids out there that could smoke me on trying to feed me bullshit because I just don't know what they're doing. Right. Right. They start talking to me about something, I don't have any. Any idea what they're talking about, they could run game on me.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:03

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:04

But you know what I mean. I'm not saying, but like it's like there's a huge part of the population that just doesn't even know how to do the basic stuff. You know, to check something out. Right. Well, think it, but that goes back to even a better point because like you think about it, most of them can't check their news. Most of them can't check regular facts. Right. To even get an idea. So it's like that's a huge part of the population.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:31

And then you've got that population that was born and raised on sending money to the televangelists.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:37

Oh, that well, that brings up a whole other sort of because like you have people that were like bona fide scammers. Right. That no, I'm not saying every you know what I mean. Like I'm sure some of the televangelists are fine. But maybe I don't know. I don't know. I don't watch televangelists.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:58

Here's the way that I look at them all. I'm is that did most of them probably start out with positive intent? Sure. Yeah, and I'm saying But money compromises people.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:08

Well, and that's exactly right, is I don't think that there's any minister, pastor, whatever in the world world. If you're doing like I mean, I'm sure that people are probably gonna try to argue with this with me, but like that should be accumulating that kind of wealth because I'm I'm not an expert, but I'm just saying, I don't think Jesus really like was big on the you know, like not helping in every way that you could. Like, here's my question is if Jesus were a preacher today, would he have eight million dollars, four houses, and three boats?

SPEAKER_00 1:29:48

Right. Like I mean, that's all

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SPEAKER_00 1:29:51

I'm gonna say on that. That's all I'm gonna say. That's a great that's a great that's a great thought to close it out. And actually, that's really powerful. I like it. So to bring it back home, we're raising a baby. We're gonna try really hard to make sure that he does not become a con artist or a scam. Uh we're gonna show him how to lie detect so you can't pull a scam on him. Um, but in the grand scheme of things, like there's only a couple archetypes of humans, and we're we're we have the capability to raise a good one. So we better do that. I agree. Um, anything coming up that you want to shout out to before our July episodes?

SPEAKER_02 1:30:33

July 2nd, McGarvey's. We're doing a show thing. It's like a competition sort of to go on to other things. But come check it out, it'll be a lot of fun. July 2nd, McGarvey's, and then uh August 29th, I'm headlining. Ooh. Headlining the Out's Dale Moose. Which, I mean, when you're talking about venues, I think the Outsdale Moose top jumps to the top of your mind. Not that I'm not gonna, because I love a moose club, you know that.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:06

Oh my god, that's like right up I it's it's it's perfect.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:10

It's my bread and butter.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:11

It is your bread and butter. It's a club in the middle of Pennsylvania, rural Pennsylvania.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:17

That's like my target audience.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:19

That is your target that yes, that's your demographic audience.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:22

That's my demographic. Just like in what's uh Zach and Mary make a porno. You remember when he he's Brandon St. Randy? Justin Long, one of the one of the greatest characters in film history. Justin Long is Brandon St. Randy, and Zach and Mary make a porno when they're at the high school ringing. And he says, uh he makes gay

Show Plugs And Stay Trashy

SPEAKER_02 1:31:47

porn. Right. And he's like talking to Seth Rogan, and he's like, Yeah, he's like, I make gay, I mean he's like talking about making gay porn into this ridiculous voice and has this ridiculous mustache.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:59

And he's like, I wouldn't have pegged you for porn or whatever. And he's like, Well, you're not my demographic. And Seth Rogan's like, well, what's your demographic?

SPEAKER_02 1:32:10

And he's like, Do you like pussy? And he's Seth Rogan's like, yeah, and he's like, not you.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:18

Oh my god. So your demographic is Monroverse and also Hald Stalers and everyone in between. So well, if nobody's told you bitches the day, stay trashy. Stay trashy.

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