Gilded Trash
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Gilded Trash
Do Yinz Have Faith?
We chase comfort food into kitchen science, then tackle hard questions about faith, intent, and the ethics of altar calls, before detouring into Bigfoot, word nerd delights, and a stack of live show plugs. Warm, curious, and a little feral, we cook, question, and invite you to the table.
• new recording space energy and a run of fall cravings
• beans vs no-beans chili and texture talk
• tapioca backstory and cassava roots
• sourdough starter management and discard uses
• nostalgia cooking, sloppy joes, and mustard’s role
• fast-food fish, fish sticks, and honest comfort
• TikTok inspiration, French onion soup, and baguettes
• brassica family, hybrids, and evolution analogies
• protein bowls, science and faith side by side
• altar calls at funerals and intent vs doctrine
• church charity contradictions and online “gotchas”
• Bigfoot near Bald Eagle and credible witnesses
• accuracy vs precision explained for everyday use
• open mics, upcoming shows, and Friendsgiving invite
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SPEAKER_04:Well hello. And welcome back to the broke down palace at studio.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Killer Trash Productions has been talking about making an event space. We wanted to make it diverse. So I wanted to try recording here and see what it looks like.
SPEAKER_04:So see what it sounds like.
SPEAKER_01:You guys get to experience that with us.
SPEAKER_04:Yep. Tonight, big announcement. I'm ordering gyros from punkies, tacos, and flatbreads.
SPEAKER_01:So he's been walking around with his shit eating grin on his face for the last hour. And I kept being like, what are you what's so funny? Are you writing comedy bits in your head? He's like, no, I did that Howard of Sidel. What's so funny?
SPEAKER_04:They also have Italian wedding soup and chili. I've been wanting chili. So it kills all the birds. Yeah. All the birds are dead.
SPEAKER_01:Well, and I don't eat chili.
SPEAKER_04:Right. This was a previous discussion. She doesn't eat chili because she doesn't like it. So I don't get to eat it. I love it. And I mean, I like Italian wedding soup too, but I mean that's I love Italian wedding soup.
SPEAKER_01:I do not like the texture of beans and chili. So I will eat needless or beanless chili. Not meatless. I mean weightless. So allegedly.
SPEAKER_03:They sell that down at the vegan place. I'm just seeing the yesterday. It's all beans, baby.
SPEAKER_01:It's a texture thing for me. But Richard Beans are disgusting.
SPEAKER_04:Let's be honest. Let's have a real real talk. Beans are disgusting.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, I like baked beans. I don't. I don't like the texture. Again, I like the thought behind the flavor for a lot.
SPEAKER_04:I do whatever kind of beans they use in bushes. I don't mind them beans. Whatever those are.
SPEAKER_01:Brown beans.
SPEAKER_04:Brown beans. Are they?
SPEAKER_01:I don't know. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04:I mean, that's what they are after they're baked.
SPEAKER_01:I don't go like I don't look into the legume and lentil category very often because the texture of Magsney. So, but like real chili, like that.
SPEAKER_04:I like beef lentil. Do you like beef lentil?
SPEAKER_01:No, but I like beef barley.
SPEAKER_04:Beef barley.
SPEAKER_01:That texture not so bad.
SPEAKER_04:Barley. Well, barley's more like eat it's like rice.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. It's like eating beef and rice. Beef and rice.
SPEAKER_01:That's actually what makes it.
SPEAKER_04:I haven't had beef and rice soup in a while. That's another classic stable.
SPEAKER_01:So, and it's the season for those kind of foods, right?
SPEAKER_04:That's why I'm talking about it, because it's For sure.
SPEAKER_01:Like I've been making nostalgic foods over the past couple weeks. The weather has got me into it. I love to bake and cook this time of year. Um, but one of the things that I made last week, I think, was um tapioca from scratch.
SPEAKER_04:I when I was a kid, I thought that tapioca was an adult thing. And it was because Well, no, I'm saying I thought must have had liquor in it or something. Because I knew the things that I wasn't allowed to have. And the first time that Dad made tapioca, they were like talking about it as if it wasn't for the children.
SPEAKER_01:So like That's because it's so hard to make.
SPEAKER_04:It's very I'm pretty sure this was just a jello puddin' pop box.
SPEAKER_01:Oh.
SPEAKER_04:You know what I'm talking about. I it might not have been though, because I feel like back in the day, was there a kind of like it was almost like in Uncle Ben's box? The tapioca.
SPEAKER_02:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_04:And I feel like it was like that though. I'd something about that box of Uncle Ben's reminds me of like it was that size of like a rice, a smoke rice box. And it was tapioca, but it was I don't know the brand or anything, but that's what I think that people had in their covers. It wasn't jello instant.
SPEAKER_01:It just it's funny that you say that because I grew up with the impression that tapioca was an old people food. Not that it was off limits for kids, but just that only old people ate it. It's off limits. And so, but my mom made it from scratch, and I absolutely loved that version of it. I don't like the pre-packaged version.
SPEAKER_04:Tapioca's like a starch in and of itself. It's its own thing.
SPEAKER_01:It is its own thing.
SPEAKER_04:It's just like a, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:It sort of reminds me in a better way of those weird like fruit salad things with the noodles. Yes. I don't particularly like that. I don't need noodles with my fruit. Oh, wow. I don't mean noodles with my fruit, dude.
SPEAKER_01:I'm gonna oh I forget the name of it, but it's like peppaduccini or something like that.
SPEAKER_04:Peppedini.
SPEAKER_01:But it's like real tiny, tiny, tiny noodles.
SPEAKER_04:Oh yeah, I forget the name of those.
SPEAKER_01:So it's the same concept though, because when you make those, you have to soak them first before you make yeah, it's a s it's a starch that you have to like wet. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Much like a rice.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Much like a rice, but just a different thing.
SPEAKER_01:And they did put use those in fruit salads back in the day.
SPEAKER_04:Here's my question. I know they make tapioca flour. So is like tapioca like a plant? I wonder.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know.
SPEAKER_04:Is it like well, because I'm saying like wheat or no, I know I could ask, but that's we'll find that out later.
SPEAKER_01:We'll find it out later.
SPEAKER_04:I'm not in I'm I don't want to Google.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I'm really into the whole science of baking right now because I'm doing the whole sourdough thing. And I'm not confident that my sourdough is like gonna turn out, but they've been doing all right so far. I made two. Um, so the so after like so I forgot to feed them on day five.
SPEAKER_04:It's made from how do you say this? Cassava root? Cassava root, that's what it's made from. It's a flower that's made from that word.
SPEAKER_01:Tabio guys?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Nice. Interesting. I love learning things about stuff like that. I love science behind food.
SPEAKER_04:So who would guess that though?
SPEAKER_01:No.
SPEAKER_04:I wouldn't.
SPEAKER_01:Because I've heard of like the cassava plant before.
SPEAKER_04:I've heard of it, but I don't even know what it is. Is it like native to America?
SPEAKER_01:I don't know. No, it sounds like it's native.
SPEAKER_04:It sounds like it's native to something else. Yeah. Interesting.
SPEAKER_01:But um, with the sourdough stuff, oh, so I forgot to feed them on day five, and then I misunderstood the directions. So I had way too much starter. I had to like recalibrate because I thought you were supposed to take half the starter out every time. No, that's only on day one. You have to take, you only are supposed to use a hundred grams of starter to feed every time. So you keep a hundred grams of your starter. All the rest is discard, right? So I now have a half-gallon jar of discard that's like three quarters full. We're still good though. It's growing, it smells like a nice What's it gonna make when you make it with the discard? Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, pretzels, all of it.
SPEAKER_01:Grim.
SPEAKER_04:Salty crackers.
SPEAKER_01:Crackers goes so the very first batch of discard that I have from day one is the least fermented, and it's like the most hydrated or least hydrated, maybe. So you make crackers with those, but there's like stages of discard that you use for everything. So the closer you get to full activity is the stage of discard you use for that recipe. That makes sense. Yeah. So you wouldn't like make pie dough with stage.
SPEAKER_04:Right, right, right, obviously. It's really here's my question, though. Can you switch sourdough out for like any dough? Like, for example, like you could make bread. You can make anything that you can make out of regular dough. Can you make out of sourdough? That's the question.
SPEAKER_01:You start with sourdough and then you adjust your um water or hydration levels to account for what's in the sourdough.
SPEAKER_04:And then if it c it depends on So you could make pie dough from sourdough.
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:You could make pizza dough from sourdough.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:You could make bread dough from sourdough.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, obviously you can make bread dough that, but so anything that calls so here's the thing is anything that you need yeast for it to rise, that's like what stage. So crackers you don't want to rise. So you use the earliest discard because you don't want the crackers to rise, right? But if you want something to rise or have that gluten-y thing that we pumped into earlier, then you need to have either yeast or sourdough starter.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, so it sort of replaces the yeast factor like in recipe because it's already activated.
SPEAKER_01:Not fully, like in some like pizza dough, but you still and again you can use discard for pizza dough, but when you use the discard for pizza dough, then you have to use yeast as well. So it's like it's all adjusting your levels of like your levels of like liquids or hydration in your recipe and adjusting for how much activity is going on in the fermented fermentation of the stargard.
SPEAKER_04:Right, right. So yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. I'm interested.
SPEAKER_01:So you can pretty much make anything with you could use the discard for anything, but at stage one, it's just like basically water and flour paste, which is interesting because I found out I love a good roux.
SPEAKER_02:Who doesn't?
SPEAKER_01:You know, I love to make Cajun food. You can use sourdough starter discard to make a roux, which is great because if you use the earlier stages, you've got that paste. There's no lumps. You don't have to worry about getting it mixed up. It's just a perfect paste at that point.
SPEAKER_04:Right. It's just already because that's the name of the game when you're doing stuff like that, is just or like when you're making gravy or something. That's what, or like people refer to as the liquid gold.
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_04:When you're making pots, that's stuff. You take that water because those molecules are already bonded together.
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_04:So it helps the it the water and the oil and stuff can all the fat and the water and all can bond.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Because that process has already taken place. And I mean it's much more scientific than that, but that's exactly in layman's term. Yeah, that's exactly what's happening now.
SPEAKER_01:So I am like, I think tomorrow I'm gonna make some pierogi dough and some pizza dough just to start using up my discard.
SPEAKER_04:I was losing weight.
SPEAKER_01:I am gonna try a batch of pack.
SPEAKER_04:I was losing weight, and we had steamers yesterday, but it's been down the armor sex.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my god. Let's talk about these sluggish last night. Holy smack.
SPEAKER_04:Sloppa Joe. Sloppa sloppa.
SPEAKER_01:I was singing that.
SPEAKER_04:They were the sloppiest fucking Joes you ever seen, brother.
SPEAKER_01:It's a slapper. Oh my god, but they were so good. So I talk about Chat GBT all the time. Um, I explained to Chat GBT the flavor profile that I grew up with, um, and then added a couple of bells and whistles. And he found the best recipe, gave me some tweaks to use if I wanted this or this, and it was it worked. It was good. It was real good.
SPEAKER_04:I mean, I think back to like childhood steamers, because it's like brown up, especially like in South Central Pennsylvania. Western Pennsylvania too.
SPEAKER_01:Where they're called steamers, which I had never heard of until I moved over there.
SPEAKER_04:Right. It's a very thing. So that's where the steamer thing comes. That's a sloppy joke, but I mean it's interchangeable, but there's like a pride of tradition there where everybody's like, Gromwell makes them Gromwell's got more mustard. Dad uses man witch. Uh you know what I mean? Yeah. Like that sort of thing. Yeah. So they all taste. I mean, they're all good. It's hard to fuck up a steamer.
SPEAKER_01:Over here, you have to use Heinz ketchup.
SPEAKER_04:Right. Right.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I mean, it it's hard to mess it up, but it's also like you also, if you want to get close to nostalgia, right? You have to like, there's a couple things that were thrown in, like the brown sugar back in the day. So um, when I moved over to Hagerstown, and this is one of my favorite um stories, is um my first husband, his mom, Linda, taught me a lot about cooking, like how steamers, how like the South Central Pennsylvania people cook, right? Which is way different.
SPEAKER_04:Well, the Cumberland Valley, so that extends down into Hagerstown.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:But the Cumberland Valley is a very specific, it goes from Maryland up into Pennsylvania. Right.
SPEAKER_01:But she grew up with Everett, Pennsylvania, so she has those Everett roots.
SPEAKER_04:Well, the Western Pennsylvania still does them.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:It's not everybody does them. Everybody does it. It's just a matter of what they're calling them.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_04:Then I it's everybody's eating sloppy joes all across America.
SPEAKER_01:Right. But my mom, to my knowledge, had never put mustard in either her baked beans or her sloppy joe mix. And when I learned that little secret from Linda, oh my gosh, that changed my world because mustard's where it's at. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:It gives it that tack. I even sometimes like if a steamer, I like to put a little extra mustard on it.
SPEAKER_01:On it.
SPEAKER_04:With some onion.
SPEAKER_01:I like uh shredded cheddar online.
SPEAKER_04:See, I don't like them with cheese. I've never a cheese. I enjoy a burger with cheese. I don't like cheese on my chicken sandwich. No like cheese on my I like cheese on my hoagie like a hand turkey or cheese.
SPEAKER_01:I do like cheese on my fish sandwich, but only if it's McDonald's.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. McDonald's fish sandwiches is its own thing.
SPEAKER_01:It's its own beef.
SPEAKER_04:It's not a fish sandwich. It's a McDonald's fish sandwich.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's exactly.
SPEAKER_04:Which is a totally different thing. And you're right. I don't want cheese. Like if I go get like when we get like lead time and stuff and we get the sandwiches from the places, I don't want cheese on like my haddock sandwich. Yeah. I just want like tartar, some pickle, some lettuce or something. I don't want cheese. But McDonald's fish filet, fish O filet or whatever the hell that is. But it isn't it something weird? Like Offilet Fish Ofilet or something.
SPEAKER_01:Or we're in another one of those um mandela effect things where it was called fish au filet and it wasn't.
SPEAKER_04:You know what's weird is here's a little observation in life is something that and maybe this will come back into our life now that in the future, um because of other some reasons. But as an adult, you don't really ever eat fish sticks. No, there's no re if you are an adult eating fish sticks, but I miss some good, some like little gordon fish sticks on a Friday night, dipping them in some ketchup.
SPEAKER_01:Right. Like I would eat like the I would make the kids their fish sticks and then like have two or three or three left over for me to just dip and catch up at these.
SPEAKER_04:There's something about well, like a good fish stick. The cheap ones suck, obviously. But there was something I really liked.
SPEAKER_01:I like the batter dipped Gordon's fillets.
SPEAKER_04:We had a lot of we ate fish sticks a good bit.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Oh my gosh. I love it. But so um I am easily influenced on socials by food trends. I love them. Um, and I've done a bunch of them, but so the sourdough is one of them, right? But um this one is not a food trend. I was just influenced by so remember we talked about the Annapasta salad girl.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, of course.
SPEAKER_01:Back 4th of July. Well, we're friends on TikTok now. Um, and she's getting ready to put a cookbook out. Yeah. She has a farm stand, which I want to go visit. Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_04:We need to call it like the Anapasta lady.
SPEAKER_01:No. Uh it's um folk home remedies.
SPEAKER_04:Folc home remedy.
SPEAKER_01:Or home folk. Full yeah, folk home.
SPEAKER_04:Full home remedies.
SPEAKER_01:Or home folk remedies. But either way, she's like stater. She is uh indeed a home stat. So this ties all back around though, because um I wasn't influenced by her to make the sourdough, but the other night my sourdough was giving me some sass, and I was thinking. No, she didn't. No, I'm gonna get there. But I was thinking about what I've wanted to name my sourdough starters. And I was thinking back to the episode where Lucy and Ethel on I Love Lucy tried to make bread, and the bread like grew so big it exploded all over the kitchen, right?
SPEAKER_04:Like Lucy does.
SPEAKER_01:And that was a Mandela effect one because a lot of people remember it as a flour incident where there was flour everywhere, but it was actually like the bread dough that went everywhere. Yeah, Chappie and I had to talk about that.
SPEAKER_04:What do you remember? And what's the what's it say on the internet?
SPEAKER_01:So I asked Chappie about the famous episode where Lucy and Ethel had flour all over the kitchen. And he said, there is an episode where Lucy has flour on her face, but what everybody commonly misremembers is the episode where they were attempting to bake bread and it excluded all over the kitchen. So it was the bread, not the flour. And they get too slated. So it's not really a mansion. So it's the it's like, yeah, I can see it's like mass misremembering or conflating of well.
SPEAKER_04:I think that's what makes the Mandela effect so interesting, is because when you look at those things, it's you don't realize how easy it is for your brain to play tricks on you.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I know. And everybody's memory palace is a little bit glitchy.
SPEAKER_04:No matter how good or it has nothing to do with how smart you are either.
SPEAKER_01:Not at all.
SPEAKER_04:It's just it's the way brains work.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_04:And one of the things that they do is they your brain fills in gaps and information. Yeah. So and it pulls that information from other places. It's kind of like a chat GPT, where like sometimes it's giving it like it has a Sometimes it gets it right and sometimes it's like way off base. Right, because it just doesn't have the right data set to go back to.
SPEAKER_01:It doesn't have the right connectors to connect the correct dots to make sense.
SPEAKER_04:Right. So it it that's exactly right. So I'm not saying that the Mandela doesn't affect doesn't exist. I think it's one of those things where I think that like some of them I think are plausible, some of them I think are very much real.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_04:And then other ones I'm like, well, that's because it's I'm basing that on my memory, but I'm also basing that on the fact that like some of them you can tell why people misremember it.
SPEAKER_01:Right. Right.
SPEAKER_04:But then there's other ones that are like inexplicable.
SPEAKER_01:Like the Mandela one.
SPEAKER_04:Well, see, to me that one I don't because I remember, I don't remember him dying.
SPEAKER_01:I do remember him dying.
SPEAKER_04:No, I believe you I believe you, but I remember when he got out of prison. That was a big that was the big, a big, big deal when I was in school.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_04:So I do remember that, but I hear you.
SPEAKER_01:Well, full circle.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Robert is gonna get named Lucy and Ethel. Lucy and Ethel. However, the reason why I'm saying that being influenced is because, like I said, home folk remedies, folk home remedy, she is she has a pharmacy and she's getting ready to put out a cookbook. And so she's been posting some of her recipes. Well, she posted French onion soup the other week. And I just tell you, I hadn't made French onion soup in probably 25 years, maybe, maybe 15, 16. I don't know. It's been a long time.
SPEAKER_04:I don't know that we've ever had it. Like, I don't know that you've made it since we've been together.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_04:It's it's been a long time. 16 years.
SPEAKER_01:Right. Well, yeah, but I made it and it was really good. And I want to do more of that. Like I want to do more things that I've never done.
SPEAKER_02:Easily I want to give them a soup trock so we can put them in the I do. Put them in the oven.
SPEAKER_01:Uh yeah. We had to fancy around the big, yeah. Oh, but the baguettes were really good.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, but baguette bet. Baguette has my heart. Baguette is good, dude. It's real good. Now I'm gonna make the olive things though, because that's just the best.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my gosh. What's it called?
SPEAKER_04:Top and on, I think.
SPEAKER_01:Topanon. Yeah, where you just like it's olives and fetal.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I don't know that that's I think topping on is just olives, but I think I don't know what it but it's similar to.
SPEAKER_01:But you made it better by adding feta cheese.
SPEAKER_04:No, I didn't make that. I mean, I didn't make it better. Matt introduced me to that.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, okay. No.
SPEAKER_04:And then I took it and was just like, oh, I'm making this again. Yeah, Matt made it for something.
SPEAKER_01:I'm I believe you, but I just don't remember because in my brain that's always been one of the favorite things that you make.
SPEAKER_04:I think he made it one time when we went over to Tad's when they still would have been hairstyle.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I mean, that would have had to have been when. So I feel like you've been making it for a long time.
SPEAKER_04:I have been making it for the first time I think I made it, we were either we either lived in the trailer, which was right after we got together, which I think is when it was.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it was. It absolutely was. It was for like New Year's Eve, I think.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, it's not definitely. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But one of the things you haven't made in a while that was really good was your crab stuffed mushrooms. That's why.
SPEAKER_04:I do like crab stuffed mushrooms. I uh there was something else I wanted to make with crab recently. I also just remembered that I have that broccoli, fresh local broccoli from down there. That's what I love about broccoli, cauliflower, is you can get a second season of it locally in the football because it grows in cold. So it it I mean, it doesn't grow in cold, but it it you don't want it dead of summer. So you grow one batch in the spring and then another batch in the fall. So because it does it does well with the cold temperatures, it can survive through the night. So it's it's a cooler temperature vegetable.
SPEAKER_01:You guys heard it first warmer friend.
SPEAKER_04:Well, and that's because broccoli, a lot of people don't know this, but a lot of your modern vegetables all come from the same family as broccoli. The original plant backed thousands it's I don't know the exact word, but it's the Latin word is very similar to broccroccoli. It's like braccus broccasi or whatever.
SPEAKER_01:Bracilius or something.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, something like that, where it's like that family. They then took that and bred that's broccoli, cauliflower, Brussels sprouts, um cabbage, whatever. Cabbage um is the same family.
SPEAKER_01:Um turnips.
SPEAKER_04:No, turnips are their own thing. But those are all it they might not even be though. That's what surprises you is how much stuff comes from that family. All the like that family, that ancient grip plant, years thousands of years ago, they turned into all these different vegetables through cultivation, which is mind-blowing.
SPEAKER_01:It is. So we've actually been doing hybrid vegetables for everything is genetically modified.
SPEAKER_04:We've been genetically modifying plants since that's what bothers me about that. Like some of it I get because it's like through these other processes, but like Right.
SPEAKER_01:It's the process.
SPEAKER_04:It's not the it's not the act of hybriding, it's the process which makes it what I find interesting too, though, is people are like, well, how did you know, people that like when you talk about like evolution and stuff, like you think about that over the span of millions of years. Like in it in less than 10,000 years, we turned a plant into 40 different vegetables. Do you know what I'm saying? Out of nothing, by just crop breeding the best of this and favoring certain traits. Before we even understood what genetics were, right? We were using that to cultivate plants.
SPEAKER_01:They did it with dogs too, buddy.
SPEAKER_04:Absolutely. Look at all the dog breeds.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:It's incredible. They have dogs that are this big and they got dogs that are fucking as big as humans.
SPEAKER_01:And yet people don't want to believe in evolution and they have dogs running around there.
SPEAKER_04:And they're like, well, dogs didn't change species. Well, no, they didn't, but we're only talking about a few hundred years that people have been breeding dogs. Right, right. And species start to separate like up when they can no longer cross-breed. So when the distinguishing characteristics become so far apart that they can no longer mix and it be a viable offspring, that's when you start to separate. And my guess would be in 2,000 years, what we see with dogs. Like, how's a little toy dog gonna breed with a big dog? You know what I mean? Like you start to see genetic changes that are no longer able to be cross species to species. Right. And you see this separation. Dog breeding's only been going on for really a few hundred years. So of course you're not gonna see it on that micro level because of these things play out over the span of hundreds of thousands, millions of years.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_04:You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01:So I love it. So I had one final thought. I had one final thought on food for this week, which is I guess maybe I'm late to the party, which is not abnormal for me. But um the Subway protein bowls, I don't know if we just got those here in Johnstown or if they've always been on the menu, but after we talked about bread for the last 45 minutes, I do like a good protein bowl. It was well worth it. It was for like oven ninety-nine or something, it was packed with meat, it was packed with vet. I mean, it was just, it was good. It was worth the money, it was filling. There was lots of stuff in it.
SPEAKER_04:To anybody, I just want to go back to this, to anybody that because we have a lot of you know, people of various faiths and stuff to listen to us and whatnot. I make a sound to your audience. But if you really want to understand how you can still reconcile your faith with science, read the book by Francis Collins. It's called The Language of God. He's the guy that first mapped the human genome, and he knows everything that there is to know um about DNA and stuff like that. It's pretty amazing.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and he's also a the theologian, right?
SPEAKER_04:No, but he's he's a Christian, but he's also the leading scientist. And it but it's just the way he lays it out. I'm just saying this is a very good book, check it out. Francis Collins, the language of God. Because it that's what he's saying, DNA is the language of God. You get it. But anyhow, he's the guy that first mapped the human genome. It's not like he's just some bullshit guy. He's a like probably one of the world's foremost experts on DNA.
SPEAKER_01:And he still believes in God. So there you have it. Which actually is a nice segue into another segment of stuff that I wanted to talk about this week. Um so after Charlie Kirk died, there was like a search for people to want to go to church, right? And he and it's just so messy in my brain. I I have a hard time articulating it. Because I love the idea of a good church. I love the idea of like a beautiful song and everybody singing and praising God.
SPEAKER_04:A community.
SPEAKER_01:A community. I love the idea of trust. Right. Trust that you can connect with, that you can that you feel comfortable that if you're giving to their charitable causes that they're being distributed fairly, all this, that, and the other, right? So the idea of church is beautiful, but the actual organizations are not so much we're finding this past couple of weeks because Well go ahead.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, no, I was gonna say it really goes back to one thing per in particular, which is why I'm sure you brought this up because this happened to us, is altar calls at funerals.
SPEAKER_01:That is one of the reasons. You're absolutely right, but the timing of it isn't packable because it brought me full circle back to I don't want to go to church.
SPEAKER_04:Right. Because then you see the like you're sitting there and you're like, oh, this is what I this is the part that I hate. Like it all sounds good at first, like they're they were doing their thing, but then it just turns into this, we're not there for that reason. You have to understand that though, too. You have to be able to disconnect. Like, don't come at me like a salesman, especially when you're at a place when you're already at church. Why are you still trying to sell because I don't want that for that reason. I want reaffirmations of things that I already know because I'm already there. I'm not there, like I don't need this.
SPEAKER_01:Right, you're preaching to the choir is like perfect. But here's the thing is so you know that at a funeral there are non-believers who come to pay respects to the dead. But in it just in that particular moment, and and I felt that way when my son passed away, like we've dealt with very close deaths, and it has always nudged me. But in this particular um instance, it wasn't somebody I was very close to, right? But the message behind every single person that came up and the family that talked and everything was so great.
SPEAKER_04:So eloquently that ended it with a little short thing at the end of that would have been one of the most beautiful services that you but then it just went into a diatribe of basically a sermon, which I'm not that's he's a preacher, that's his job. But at the same time, there's also a time and a place for that.
SPEAKER_01:And it was an altar call for sure that was really just it was infuriating me because then it brings it around home to what I always struggle to articulate, but I've said it all the time is the concept of religion is fantastic. It's fallible men who destroy it. And so this man really liked to hear himself talk for 35 minutes after what could, like you said earlier, like they could have done the, but here's why I was really, really, really pissed off about this. This is what made me so angry that I had to come home and like study a little bit. I was so mad is that what was spoken about this man was true, true, true. He was a charitable man, he was a kind man, he was a giving man, he was a knowledgeable man, he was a helpful man, he had pure intent in his heart, and intent is the message, right? Intent. Because what this preacher went on to erase after that was that no matter how good this man was in real life, had he not accepted Christ into his heart, he would have gone to hell instead of heaven. Fuck you. Fuck you and your fucking dogma, because I don't believe that for a second. I do not believe that for a second. It's hard for me to reconcile that with my brain. That you could be the best human being ever with all the intent. And if you just never took the time to say, yeah, I accept Christ into my heart, even though you conceptually believe that there's a universal power. No.
SPEAKER_04:Well, there's a hard line there amongst Christians, and there's a lot of debate about that very topic. I mean, people would even argue that that's like the Protestant Catholic beef. Is it works? Is it this? And here's the thing is I mean, all according to I mean, all those things, the Bible says a lot of things. And like you said, I I I mean, that's your personal thing. I mean, it's your personal like viewpoint on it of like your relationship with God is your own relationship with God. And I think that that ultimately is the message of Jesus, is that right, do unto others is the one well, yeah, yeah. I mean, that absolutely. Yeah, like obviously works were important to him because that's what he did. But I think the thing was is that each person should have their own personal relationship with God and not think of it as a you know collective. I think that ultimately is the message of Jesus.
SPEAKER_01:Right, absolutely. But not only that, like the altern think about the alternative. Think about the alternative that you can be a total shit ass destroyer of lives and souls, your entire Right.
SPEAKER_04:It goes back to the Hitler argument. Right. That if Hitler on his deathbed was like, I accept Jesus, then Hitler's in heaven according to some Christian. Like I said, this is a dogmatic split amongst the church. Right. So I'm not gonna sit here and claim, like, because I don't know who knows. None of us know for sure.
SPEAKER_01:None of us will know for sure until we find out.
SPEAKER_04:Right. And here's the thing that I think is interesting too, and you hear this from a lot of different, you know, theologians and people that look into these kind of things, is that there's always this assumption that your interpretation of the Bible or whatever is correct. And the thing of the matter is people are like, well, that's what the Bible says. The Bible never just says anything.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_04:If you the Bible that you can, unless you can speak ancient Hebrew, Aramaic, and uh ancient Greek, then you there's subtle things in there that change people's interpretation. So you're reading somebody's interpretation of somebody's interpretation of somebody's interpretation.
SPEAKER_01:And I'm not saying that it's a language translation.
SPEAKER_04:And I'm not saying that it's totally different, but I'm just saying that even you as a reader are translating a language to what you believe the text means.
SPEAKER_01:Exactly.
SPEAKER_04:So one of the biggest things that you can always be as a human is curious. So so many things that people say, like when you can come at it like that, like that you may not be exactly right, then you can sort of start to get into other people's viewpoints and really deep dive and find out, you know, talk to like just what you think, even.
SPEAKER_01:Right. But these are all philosophical discussions, they are philosophical, but they're the things that we encounter in day-to-day that make me pull back from promoting any one thing.
SPEAKER_02:Right, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01:And so, but on socials this week it came up twice because, in one instance, and that's why I'm saying, like, so for me, it's intent. Intent is the word here because here in one social media instance, you have a woman who may or may not have been telling the truth who was calling churches and asking for formulas.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, right, right, right.
SPEAKER_01:And the responses were pretty disheartening, right? Um, but the there was a couple pastors who took it upon themselves to respond to it, and it was ridiculous because the word, well, I don't even know what the word benevolence even means, but he said that the benevolence is reserved for our flock, like the people that come to our church all the time. So that was a literally-I mean, it wasn't disheartening because you know that they're like church-leading assholes.
SPEAKER_04:Well, also, let's go down this rabbit hole then. So, this is uh another thing that's among philosophical Christian ideas is suppose, imagine Jesus in modern times walking through New York City. Or say, let's change it. Let's say Austin, Texas. There's a lot of homeless. Comes the first homeless guy, and he says to his disciple, No, give this man, you know what I mean, give duh all the things, give him the thing. Come to the second guy, give him all your things, da-da-da-da-da-da. Come to the third guy, give them all. And then you give to the fifth guy, and Jesus' like, sorry, man, I'm a lot of cash man. Right. You know what I'm saying? There's there's so but what what would you say then? So, like, there's nuances.
SPEAKER_01:There are nuances. There are.
SPEAKER_04:So we don't you don't know the exact situations. We don't know the exact, so it's hard to really lay, to me, it's hard to really lay a blanket judgment on the whole thing and just be like, this is what they should do, whatever.
SPEAKER_01:Right. There's no you just don't know. And you're relying on people who are secretaries and freaking not you know what I mean? There's so many things layers, right? So I think that that was ill intent because that person was looking to she specifically was calling with a script to call out and catch charges, right?
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_01:There there are other ways to do that. You and it wasn't necessary. No, but it sounded it seemed to me.
SPEAKER_02:It's a bad experiment. Right. It doesn't control and there are zero controls.
SPEAKER_01:That's the point, right? We live in a business world where you there you have to call out your controls. So where there was right, exactly. So it was uncontrolled social experiment.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But then the other one that came up was um which shows nothing. Right, exactly. It's just like, okay, cool, you did that, have fun. Um, but then the other one that um showed up was uh a woman who was homeless living in her car, and she had been parked in the church parking lot. And I don't even know why she was inside the church filming. I don't know if they called her in to talk to her. I don't know what happened. Like, but essentially, like she was filming, so that's always a right flag for me because I feel like everybody wants to have a gotcha moment.
SPEAKER_04:They do.
SPEAKER_01:I mean But I also some people feel the need to film to protect themselves when they feel like they're in a shitty situation, which this kind of felt like, right? So she was filming, and the pastor of the church who was a woman was telling her she can't park in the parking lot anymore. And fair enough. There's a million reasons why that is fair, and essentially like insurance reasons alone. Right. Right. So and if one if the word gets out, then all of a sudden the church parking lot is filled as in a homeless.
SPEAKER_04:Not every church is like a homeless shelter.
SPEAKER_01:Right, exactly. It just pulled in my heartstrings a little bit more. And the woman who was supposed to be a pastor was so stern and cold and icy, which is why it caught fire on social media was the woman's response. Right. Because this lady was crying, and you like you know, Mia, like that audible, it was real deal. Like I could hear that she was like upset, scared. Right. And the people were like, we're gonna call the police on you. And she was like, please, I just need help, right? So it was sad. But then the internet did the internet and they went out and looked into this pastor. She married a pedophile. Like the pastor married somebody who was already charged with pedophilia, and she's the leader of a congregation, right? So then, separate to that, they got video of her preaching the day before this video went viral. And in that sermon, she was talking about how we all need to be charitable in this time of distress in the country. And then she's filmed being cold-hearted and nicy the next day.
SPEAKER_04:So I mean I think this just goes back to the classic argument is that most people's actions don't match their words. And the other side of that too is like sometimes good people do bad things, sometimes what's this?
SPEAKER_01:Sometimes bad people don't always do bad things, and good people don't always do good things.
SPEAKER_04:Well, that that too. And like sometimes it's like people can do there's people can be multiple things. Right. It's like people can be at different parts in their life.
SPEAKER_01:That's why the yin and yang symbol exists.
SPEAKER_04:Right.
SPEAKER_01:Because I think in every fully light person, there's a little bit of dark, and in every fully dressed person, there's a little bit of light. It's situational and mental. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04:There's so many things. So many things.
SPEAKER_01:But, anyways, so it just makes me even more strongly want to um, which is funny because on the last episode we were talking about um opening a boutique funeral parlor. One thing that's gonna be banned from boutique is fucking call to worship.
SPEAKER_04:It's gonna be be unless they want that.
SPEAKER_01:Unless the person wants that. But here's the thing is I think that the person whose funeral way out would have wanted that, but not to the extent or degree which would happen.
SPEAKER_04:I don't have a problem with it. It's not that, it's just the way that it's always done. That part should not be longer. It shouldn't be the majority of what's going on. Right. It should just be if you want to take an example from this guy. This is what he thought, this is what he believed. You too can take part in heaven.
SPEAKER_01:You just did buddy credit.
SPEAKER_04:But yeah, but so yeah, I mean, that's where we are. Dogma, the movie, great movie, and I got my I'm telling Dan shirt. So um, yeah. Dogma, great remote movie.
SPEAKER_01:Sorry, Santa, I've been feral.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I have I'm feral. But that's what we talked about this week.
SPEAKER_04:So um, there was a Bigfoot spotting Pennsylvania, right in up near State, right above Belfont.
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_04:Up by Bald Eagle State Park. A cr they called the witness extremely credible.
SPEAKER_01:Extremely credible. He's an Air Force veteran.
SPEAKER_04:I didn't see what he was. Yeah. I didn't see their evidence for that, but I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_01:I'm gonna tell you.
SPEAKER_04:And he said he was the hunter, so he's familiar with the life holder. They said a guy he was driving along on Interstate 80, and this creature, two-legged creature, ran across the road and leaped over the guardrail. And he said that it was like you can tell like it wasn't just a guy, like guard closing. Like then It was too it happened in too qu not too nimble of a movement. Correct. Like to be something like to meet a human running across the road. Or a bear. Or a bear, yeah. I mean, uh well, bear that's what the guy said. He hunts bears, so he lives a bear.
SPEAKER_01:He's a retired civil engineer. Also an Air Force veteran, also a lifelong hunter.
SPEAKER_04:Trained observer.
SPEAKER_01:He's a trained observer.
SPEAKER_04:Trained observer. We call him trained observer. So um That's why he's very credible.
SPEAKER_01:That is that is fairly close to us, but there was an incident in 1918.
SPEAKER_04:Well, we go up there all the time. Yeah, yeah. I'm about to we're about to next Thursday before the Speakeasy open mic, guess who's headed the Bold Eagles fake part to look for Bigfoot? Yeah. This guy.
SPEAKER_01:And now he knows we're coming, so he's gonna hide. Um, but in the 1980s, there was an incident closer to us in uh Carnab Township, which is like two miles out the road there. Um they have casts of that big foot.
SPEAKER_03:Big feet.
SPEAKER_01:Big feet. Um, what else is going on in the world? Oh, y'all street. I just wanted to say that out loud. I don't even care. I don't care about finances. Right.
SPEAKER_04:Um, that's why I'm putting it on Wall Street to Houston. Y'all can do it. Y'all street.
SPEAKER_01:It's so simple. It's so simple.
SPEAKER_04:I'm a Yall Street executive. They're like, what?
SPEAKER_01:I'm a Yall Street headhunter.
SPEAKER_04:I'm a Yow, I work on Yow Street. You work on my street. I work on Yow Street.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, so here's a word that I learned today. So, or not today, this week. So I'm training on um the latest and greatest. Uh I'm training on Snowflake so that I can do some data shit. Um, but I was in the tutorials, and you know, I catch things when nerds drop like little, I want to figure out what he's talking about. So he was like talking about code, the guy who was training. It's a LinkedIn learning, and this guy's really fun. And um, he was talking about code and he said something about accuracy. And he's like, Don't get that confused with precision, little inside nerd joke, herp herp. So I looked it up because I didn't know that precision and accuracy were accuracy were two totally different things. Do you know what the difference is?
SPEAKER_04:Oh I mean, no. Go ahead and explain the difference. I mean, I think that I do, but like if you think about it, like it's like it's hard for me to put it into words.
SPEAKER_01:Right. But like if one's a verb and one's so accuracy is how close something is to the truth.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_01:So you can call something accurate, but it doesn't mean it's the truth. It just means that it's statistically close to the truth.
SPEAKER_04:Precision is true. If you're talking about knowledge, yes.
SPEAKER_01:Precision, even measurements.
SPEAKER_04:Well, I mean, accuracy means how close you are to the target.
SPEAKER_01:Correct.
SPEAKER_04:Right.
SPEAKER_01:Precision is how close you get to the target multiple times. So if something is precise, it gets close to the target three or more times, then it's precise, but it doesn't have to be on the target or even there's a there's a variance.
SPEAKER_04:Well, I guess you have to determine, yeah, but everything determines what the variance level that you're going to allow for what you're looking at to be.
SPEAKER_01:Right. Measuring precision has other factors involved. Right.
SPEAKER_04:And you have to decide for each thing, you'll decide what that level means to be.
SPEAKER_01:Right. Well, as a data analyst, I need to know that I'm accurate and not precise. But in order to figure out I'm accurate, I have to run the data three times and get the same general outcome, and then it would be close to accurate enough for me to report on it. Anyways, a little nerd stuff. I just I love words, and I love when I learn that words are like they use that it's not just never given either of those words of thought. I just use them interchangeably and right.
SPEAKER_04:Right, right.
SPEAKER_01:Precisely.
SPEAKER_04:Right, precisely. Um very accurate.
SPEAKER_01:So we did have the open mic.
SPEAKER_04:Ooh, the fetzers open mic.
SPEAKER_01:That was fun.
SPEAKER_04:John Sound's first open mic. That was a lot of fun. Great turnout. Uh, did a great job putting it together. Yeah. We got a lot of stuff coming up. Thanksgiving weekend, kind of show here in Johnstown, Masonic Temple, Benefits Travis Neal, Suicide, Awareness Foundation thing. I don't know the official name, something like that.
SPEAKER_01:It's on the flyer.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, go check it out. Uh Greg George, all our own productions. That's gonna be a lot of fun. That's I mean, the lineup, done. Gonna be hilarious. Great time. Make sure you come out for that. Then the next night, I'll be in State College.
SPEAKER_01:Hold on. I have to get a shout out in because my girl, G-Dubs, is headlining this time. She's the headliner. So I don't think she was the last time. So I am so excited for that. I love when G-Dubs comes to Johnstown.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, she's great. So the following night then, State College, the arena bar and grew, three Scots in a month. So it's gonna be me, Scott Davidson, Scott Kelly. Maybe there might be, there might even be another Scott, but there's definitely gonna be Brock. What's his name? Brock Marucci. He is Brock Marucci. He's a funny dude. He's one of my favorite newer Right, like favorite guys that I've discovered going out to State College, Belfon, those areas.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:He's one of my favorites that I've seen out there.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:He's for all talent. Um, and then uh Adam hoped to be there too. So that's gonna be good stuff.
SPEAKER_01:I love Adam. I will not throw anybody under the bus, but I will say that Adam brought everybody back around after one of the other shows.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He yeah, yeah, he's great. He's fantastic. He's one of my favorites too.
SPEAKER_01:There was a long lull in the middle of the show, and Adam came in.
SPEAKER_04:He did a great job within a show we were at of like picking up where somebody totally dropped a ball. Yeah. He like scooped and shoveled and dug us out of the hole in the show. It was amazing. Well, yeah, so great. Yeah, did a great job with that. It was a great rescue, I call it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:But um, yeah, so we got tons of stuff. I mean, it's just gonna be a lot of fun.
SPEAKER_01:Well, and we're also doing Friendsgiving. So this Sunday after Thanksgiving, if you guys are kidding, if you're on dessert and you want to come, yeah, just message us.
SPEAKER_04:Message us, we'll be here.
SPEAKER_01:If you want to know what to bring, um, we're doing all the main dishes, just bring maybe a dessert or whatever you want to drink. Whatever you want to drink, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:That's usually that's usually our process.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Can I stop it? I get the brow going. I thought I felt like it for a minute. No, I can't do it on command.
SPEAKER_01:I can't do it on command at all.
SPEAKER_04:Just it gets up in mind of its own.
SPEAKER_01:But these days when I get Botox, it'll be permanently up there in both cells.
SPEAKER_04:I no, I can't do it.
SPEAKER_01:I'm gonna get a brow lift.
SPEAKER_04:Brow liuch. Brouch, brow's gone wild.
SPEAKER_01:Brow's gone wild. All right, guys. No, and at least told you this week, stay trash there.
SPEAKER_02:See ya.
SPEAKER_01:Thanks for Macin hand laughs in the breeze.
SPEAKER_00:UFOs and smoking trees.
