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We take you on our UFO adventure to Pennsylvania's Roswell – the Kecksburg UFO Festival where we meet renowned paranormal researchers and dive deep into cryptid culture.
• Celebrating Alanna's 50th birthday week with unforgettable adventures
• South Mountain Hotel remains our favorite place with great staff, food, and atmosphere
• Exploring the Kecksburg UFO Festival, site of the famous 1965 UFO crash
• Meeting paranormal research celebrities like Stan Gordon and Ron Murphy who have appeared on History Channel
• Discovering incredible craftsmanship in Sasquatch wood carvings and skull art
• Learning about the "goblin universe" theory of interdimensional travel
• Connecting UFO phenomena with rich Appalachian folklore traditions
• Finding out about Squonk Fest in our hometown celebrating Cambria County's cryptid
• Reviewing Happy Gilmore 2 and Death of a Unicorn - both highly recommended
• Planning future adventures investigating paranormal phenomena across Appalachia
Join us this weekend at Squonk Fest in Johnstown's Cambria City at the Bottleworks venue if you want to experience a cryptid festival for yourself!
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Welcome Back and Birthday Week
Speaker 1Yeah, we ride and drive, track, talk, talk and go. Scott and the Atlanta on the mic, stories unfold. We're back, welcome back.
Speaker 2Welcome back there you go, there you go. Oh, you like my shirt.
Speaker 1I do Look at this guy, look at this guy.
Speaker 3I love it. Look at this guy.
Speaker 1I try to get the spaceship. Try to get the spaceship. No, these are awesome. We'll talk about these in a minute, though what are you doing?
Speaker 2Looking for my card.
Speaker 1Oh well, I wasn't going to mention them yet. Okay, we'll get to that, because we wanted to start off.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. How did we even get these shirts?
Speaker 1Why were?
Speaker 2we in Kecksburg.
Speaker 1Right, that wasn't on our agenda for last time.
Speaker 2No, it wasn't. So, as you guys know, I am coming off my 50th birthday week and we went to my favorite place in the whole wide world South Mountain Hotel, Yep.
Speaker 1Shaking my head.
Speaker 2SMH. What's their logo? Getting high at—.
Speaker 3Is that what it is?
Speaker 2Yeah, getting high at 20,000 feet or whatever, however high it is. Getting high at 20 000 feet or whatever, however high it is I don't know how high the peak is.
Speaker 1I think it's only a couple thousand feet, three thousand, we'll say three, that's three thousand feet. That's probably, honestly, probably three thousand feet's, probably like the average of, like, like the you know what I mean most of the mountains in pennsylvania, like if, because you see, like when you're siding hills, like 2,900, the other one which I'm gonna call, is just over 3,000. Like the highest one in Pennsylvania, I think is, is Mount Davis, that's, I believe, 3,900 feet. I believe is what I want to say. So you know what I mean. Like, yeah, and 2,000 feet would be probably more like Blue Ridge Summit. Do you know what I mean? That's like a little lower over in that area. You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2Maybe it's like getting high at 2,500 feet.
Speaker 1That might be. It'd be great if it was really specific. Get high at 2,778 and a third feet.
Speaker 2I'll have to dig up one of my old T-shirts, see if I have one. I don't even know what I did with them all.
Speaker 1Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2So I mean we've talked about this before South Mountain is like the place it's just home.
Speaker 1It's the best bar in the world. I mean there's no other way to put it. It's the best. I mean, every place you go you never find one quite like that. Even the good ones aren't that good. You know what I mean. Like they're not like. If it's a five, then it ticks all the boxes.
Speaker 2It ticks all the boxes, great owner, great food, great staff Everybody knows their name and if they don't, they either want to or they don't, and you'll know quickly.
Speaker 1I mean, it's cool right I love it sebast, ever since we started going there. It's so funny. I remember like it's we started going to her. Was it during covid right? During COVID right? Yeah, it was the first time that we went up. There was in the daytime or no, it was that night that, remember. We got wings.
Speaker 2Yeah, that girl was working.
Speaker 1And then the second time, and then we never saw again.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1And then the second time we went there was on New Year's Day. Our neighbor was working, remember? That's how we even discovered who made that connection.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1And there wasn't many people there and I don't remember if that was because of COVID or I don't think COVID was getting ready to hit it was starting to be in the news and then it was like this is January of 2020. Yeah, so, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2And nobody was there. But the owner was sitting at the end of the bar and he was talking, talking, talking about sports, and I was like, oh my Lord, who's this guy? And then the bartender was like, oh, he's the owner. Oops, but now we love him, I love him yeah I worked for him so, and you guys are cool, so I consider him one of my good friends yeah yeah, I mean he's uh, he's, he's uh, he's a good friend, that's yeah and we've talked about this a lot too.
Speaker 2He puts a lot of money back into the business. It looks really good, yeah like I've never.
Speaker 1I like I've never. I mean, and I've worked for. You know what I mean. I've worked for plenty of people. You've worked for plenty of bar owners. I've never seen a bar owner put back into the business what he does. It's not even close, it's not even a contact.
Speaker 2I agree.
Speaker 1I mean, it's like you know what I mean. He's constantly doing something.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1And the food.
Speaker 2I love their food. I love their food.
Speaker 1And it's simple. It's not crazy. You're not going there to get a Michelin star meal. You're going there to get a hot chicken sandwich with gravy on it and fresh cut fries. Son Like, get out of here with that bullshit.
Speaker 2Their fried oyster sandwiches are very popular.
Speaker 1The the old ladies love them well, the thing that I love about brad is that he always makes sure that he like, orders good stuff, like the meat, like the hamburgers from steely, you know what I mean. Like all that stuff makes a difference yeah to make sure you have good quality ingredients.
Speaker 2And it's basically a mini casino up there. I mean it is.
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean it is a casino, a little casino.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Don't say that it's nothing like that. It's not.
Speaker 2There's nothing going on there.
Speaker 1It's boring. Well, I mean, it's the same thing that everybody else has. That's perfectly legal. I'm not saying there's nothing illegal going on there, I'm not saying that but you know those things are coming up, it's all coming under fire. You know what I mean, Like the legality of it and stuff.
Speaker 2Yeah, and I don't even want to talk about that because that'll take us down a whole other rabbit hole about gambling that I don't want to talk about today. But I agree with you. It's such a pain in the ass. It's just who all has their hands in the pot or who can't get their hands in the pot right.
Speaker 1Right, yeah.
Speaker 2Anyway, back to reality, back to reality, back to reality, back to reality. So we were supposed to spend Thursday, friday, in the Waynesboro proper area and then go down to Virginia Beach to see Dan Soder. However, thursday night I got a little too tipsy and I threw one of my drunken meltdowns.
Speaker 1Classic Elena.
Speaker 2That said, we checked into a hotel room, I changed into my PJs and I was like I don't want to be here, I want to go home. So Scott, being the fucking awesome supportive husband that he is, especially on my birthday, drove the two hours home for us, and so Friday was just a chill day, and I love those. I mean when I tell you guys that I'm like on the spectrum, like I value nothing more than being in my bubble. Sometimes, even when he talks to me, I'm like shh, don't talk. Nobody talks to me. So I get it. I get why I'm starting to understand more why people on the spectrum wear headphones a lot. Like I get it, it's an easy out, but I also like to engage, so I don't want to do that Anywho. So got my way Friday and then Saturday.
Speaker 1Well, no, don't gloss over it. Friday we had king crab legs.
Speaker 2Oh my God, I forgot about that Shit.
Speaker 1Which was good, because neither of us have ever had them.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, and that was a fun experience.
Speaker 1Yeah, that was fun. I mean we made everything, we had a little seafood feast.
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Speaker 2Not we. You made everything, but yeah, little seafood feast.
Speaker 1Not we, you made everything and but yeah, okay go ahead and continue. I didn't want to gloss over the king crab legs because they were funny. Oh my gosh, it's not going to be the last time I'll tell you that.
Speaker 2And I got a $250 birthday bonus from FanDuel, so I gambled all night. Didn't win anything. This is the first birthday in probably five years that I didn't actually come out ahead. You did a little bit.
Speaker 1A little bit yeah.
Speaker 2So then, Saturday we did so much Saturday yes.
Speaker 1That was cool.
Speaker 2That was so cool. We drove out to Kecksburg, which is not that far from us.
Speaker 1No, it's about right around an hour. It's about 55 minutes. It's, you know, right there, Right down the road. I mean it's not far because it's not like you're jumping on an interstate highway to get there. Right, it's probably only 30 miles, you know what I mean, but like it takes you an hour to get there. You know what. I'm saying it's not that far.
Speaker 2Especially like, depending on which way you go, there's a little bit of traffic either way. So if you go like that way Right. Yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, because you've got to cross 30 at some point. Once you get over 30 and get up into the forest country. Yeah, beautiful drive.
Speaker 1Beautiful drive. Yeah, beautiful drive. I mean. It's a beautiful drive on the other side too, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's nice.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's very nice but, as we all know, back in 1965, there was a UFO that crashed there that one right there and you might have seen it on Beyond Skinwalker Ranch. You might have seen it on the Unexplained Multiple History Channel programs, you might have seen it. I mean, they've made a gazillion things about this thing. It's literally they call it Pennsylvania things about this thing. It's literally they call it pennsylvania's roswell because it's at that level, it's like the biggest one. You know what I mean? Like there's a million of them. This is the one. This is the one that people still talk about. It happened in 1965. That's what 60 years ago.
Speaker 2A lot of ways years ago. Yeah, it is, it's 60 years ago.
Speaker 1I was like, okay, 60 years ago and people are still talking about it as much as, probably even more than when it happened. That tells you the level of interest in it, and every year they have a festival there. It's put on at the volunteer fire department and I guess that's what it raises money for. Is the fire?
Speaker 2department there. Yeah, they have a lot of cool merch that they sell themselves.
Speaker 1Oh man, they have great merch, but then they also— and what I love about them is their concession stand. They're not ripping you off, or nothing at their thing. Not at all love about them is like their concession stand, like they're not ripping you off or nothing, that their thing not like it's, it's very, it's. Yeah, it's very family friendly, budget friendly. If you don't buy five hundred dollars worth of books um t-shirts we went in just because it's like you walk in, you're like I want everything yeah, oh, my god, wanted literally one.
Speaker 2As soon as we walked into the park, there was the first display. Before you even get into the actual venue was just nothing but wood carvings. Some of them were like the one I think was probably eight feet tall.
Speaker 1And we're not just talking your standard wood carving. Not only do they have an entire line of like Sasquatch wood carvings, they had these skulls right.
Speaker 2Yeah, they looked like polished bone, like that's how good the color of the skull carvings were. They looked legitimately like bone. It was good. I mean they're beautiful. We thought we were going to go back the next day and we ended up not, but I was like I wanted to come home and do the research and figure out how much those skulls were Because, like we know, they're pricey, like at a place, and I mean as well they should be. I mean, those things take a lot of time and effort.
Speaker 1Oh, the craftsmanship is superb. I mean, it's very, very nice yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, for sure, they're not just like assembly line made Each one has a little.
Speaker 1They're all one of a kind, essentially, and but then, like you said, like the giant Sasquatch, I mean, trust me, there's nothing more than I don't know what it costs. It's probably $1,000 for one of those giant, but I want a giant Sasquatch to sit outside my door. They're literally like eight feet tall, bigger than me, and they're amazing looking.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1But yeah, but no, but it's just to go back a little bit because I think we kind of glossed over it. But at this UFO festival they have all kinds of vendors, speakers, there's all kinds. Look at this activity list, holy cow, get a look at that. I mean let's just take a look at some of the things. They got a bed race. We missed it. It says it's the only bed race in the county. I mean, come on.
Speaker 2Wait, hold on a second. So only bed race in the county applies that there are other bed races in this state which I know, no more guys, I'm going to have to look into this, right.
Speaker 1So it's a three-day event Friday, saturday, sunday. Friday night you got like a. You have music being played. They got it's like half-priced food night. You know, that's all the insides. All the vendors, the speakers and stuff are there. Saturday they got a parade, they had the bed race, they had music, they had the stuff inside, you know, and then fireworks after all of that, and then Sunday they had a UFO, hot dog eating, competition, more music, they had speakers. You know all kinds of stuff, and when I say speakers, they got the best.
Speaker 2They really did. I mean, I am amazed at how approachable this circle of people are.
Speaker 1We came for the funnel cakes and got way more than we bargained for you want to do something sometime, just let me know way, way, way ahead of time.
Speaker 2Of course.
Speaker 1Not one, but two national treasures.
Speaker 2What's your name? My name is Ron Murphy. Ron Podcast.
Speaker 3No way, yeah it's called Gilded Trash.
Speaker 2Take my card though that's all my contact information.
Speaker 3I would gladly come on and talk about this stuff, okay.
Speaker 2Like really amazed, like they're so down to earth really amazed.
Speaker 1Like they're so down to earth, right, which is funny. That is funny. That's very, very clever. I like that, um. But, like, like you said, it's for the different groups of people that, like you, I mean these are people they're author. Now it's not like these are new york. Sometimes these are guys that deal with like bigfoot u, ufos, cryptids, anything like that Paranormal research. But like these are some big names. I mean these guys have been on the History Channel, like the Unexplained episodes They've been featured on Beyond Skinwalker Ranch. I mean, like these guys are sort of we joked around about Adam's Shadow Child, but that's exactly like the—it's like a— it's a color following they're the Michael Jordan of Bigfoot researchers and stuff.
Speaker 2They really are. They really are Like the only better personality that could have been there is like Andy Dikonakis or whatever that guy's name is, with the hair, the Greek.
Speaker 1Yeah, but he's ancient aliens. We're talking about modern aliens.
Speaker 2Wait, what's his name though? Suculos, georgios, suculos, georgios, suculos.
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Speaker 1Yeah, but no, I love that guy, but no, but I mean, it's not nobody like that, but like Stan Gordon's been on everything. I mean when it comes comes, these guys are when they're they're it when it comes to pennsylvania. The ron murphy, stan gordon, eric altwald is that his name. Am I pronouncing that correctly? I'm sure he's probably on the list. I don't know, but if I am, we'll fix it later. But uh, but you know what I mean? These guys are like at the top, like that's why these shows go to those people, because anytime they're filming something about Western Pennsylvania, these are the guys. Like these are the guys.
Speaker 2And I feel like such a dumbass because, like I was filming while we were like talking to these different people and I literally filmed right past two of the gentlemen who have been on multiple of the shows and I was just like, oh hey, hi, whatever, film, film, film. And they were probably they've spoken on as many as some of the I mean the other guys that were there. Sorry, guys, you can come on the podcast if you'd like.
Speaker 1Yeah, we didn't mention your names, but there's too many to like and it's too many to memorize. I don't know all these people. I'm not familiar with all their work, although I'm becoming. I bought several books. I've been reading them, learning about. How many shows have we watched? That's the other thing about Chestnut Ridge. There's an amazing amount of information out there, like shows. We just got done watching a six-part documentary. You can go watch it for yourselves for free on tubi. Yeah, it's called uh, sasquatch, something about sasquatch and the ridge. There's a word in between there, but I don't remember.
Speaker 2We'll put it in the thing yeah, I don't remember, but yeah, I'll put it in.
Speaker 2So, um, I mean, yeah, that was but it features all these people we're talking about yeah, I mean it's insane and so obviously I'm not as in this, I don't study as much of it like I'm not in the people. For me, this is the same as like marvel, right, like I know which characters I love and trust and like are my favorites, but I don't know their backstories or how they got to where they got. I don't know any of that. I'm not a Marvel nerd, but I'm a Marvel enthusiast.
Speaker 3You're a UFO nerd.
Speaker 2Enthusiast. You're a UFO nerd. You know the players, some of their backstories. You know the actual dates and times. I'm a UFO enthusiast. You're a UFO nerd. You know the players, some of their backstories. You know the actual dates and times. I'm a UFO enthusiast.
Speaker 1And I wouldn't even call my. I'm a Like. I would consider myself a casual enthusiast and you're probably more of a passing enthusiast.
Speaker 2Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1Like I'm interested I'm intrigued.
Speaker 2I want to hear the story. Um, ron murphy gave me the best phrase of my entire like this whole existence, which is woo. Like I get that woo is required to like bring people in, but I'm I get disenchanted by woo. So like I've done this whole thing with the paranormal people. You remember when we first started dating how much I love the Long Island medium. She was like my hero. I really thought that I was going to start walking around coldly reading people and I probably could, if I like dove into it. But I'm not gonna. Like I don't want that's not the energy. I want following me around for the rest of my life, right, but I'm not gonna Like I don't want that's not the energy. I want following me around for the rest of my life, right. So in that case, like I've been through because I was a nerd of new age, we'll call it at one point I got disenchanted by the sales pitches and stuff like that.
Speaker 1Well, and I think too, what happened there for a period of time. They call it the ghost hunters phenomenon Because, let's be honest, I mean before that show, everything else was sort of. When it came, it was the biggest thing in paranormal since paranormal. So what happened then is you had this huge explosion and then, in order to like, make, like, make tv shows, you gotta one-up each other because they're not the only game in town.
Speaker 1So then it becomes sensationalized. And then what happened? Is it sort of burned itself out like you're talking about, like the woo fact? They relied all on that. Instead of the now, was there stuff going on where there was good, actual investigation? Of course there always has been there, always will be yes but as far as it being at the forefront, I mean that pushed a lot of people away it did and so.
Speaker 2but what I also love about discovering this kind of universal folks is that what I've observed so far from everything I've seen, is that they're just genuinely like nice guys that just know a lot about the experience. They know it's no different than having like a hunting guide if you're going deer hunting Sure.
Speaker 1And they all are very approachable in the sense of like they're not trying, like nobody got it is getting into that business for the money, no trust and believe there's no money. Yet I mean I'm not saying those guys can't make a living and stuff right, I'm sure that they do, but I'm not, but they're not going to be. It's not fame and riches chasing bigfoot down no, no not until they actually get them.
Speaker 1So these guys are like they don't. They're not trying to sell you anything is what I'm getting at. They're not trying to. It's not, they don't. If you want to talk to them, great. If you don't, don't, like if you have a storyteller and you want to share it, great, but they're not pushing you. It's like they're just all very down to earth, like you said, as weird as that is which they're just all very down to earth like you said as weird as that is, which is awesome for us.
Speaker 2These alien people are so down to earth that sounds ridiculous in on so many levels, because so many people just take it with a grain of sand yeah, it's, but seriously, like, the more that I am watching these like shows with you and stuff like that, the more I realize I, like, I love nerd stuff. I love nerd stuff. And this is just a different layer of nerd stuff it really is. And so I just get excited to hear people that are articulate, right, speaking about something that they have a lot of knowledge on. That fascinates me, so Right. That they have a lot of knowledge on that fascinates me, so right.
Speaker 1And I had a point there that I was going to say like you, and I lost it totally. No, but it was just the fact that, like, like the whole I know it sounds ridiculous, but none of these people, none of the people that I've met that take this seriously, like these guys you know what I mean. Like you do you?
Speaker 1meet hacks and crazies, of course, but you do in anything I mean, you know what I mean. Like you meet crazy people at the sheets, you know what I'm saying. Like you meet crazy people and there's always going to be that fringe group, that's like wow. But these guys that actually take this genuine and like, treat it with respect, they don't ever speak in absolutes. Like they don't ever claim to know what's going on, claim to understand.
Speaker 1They fully admit that they don't understand the scope of this thing and we speculate a lot because that's all you can really do, but I've never heard them say like none of these people are ever like oh, this is definitely aliens, this is definitely that they don't know. And they say that they're like I have no idea what this is, but it's weird and I want to know more.
Speaker 2Well, so I'll give you a great example, because we made fun of this last. Halloween is like every paranormal show that I watch. There's like a template. When I watch UFO shows, they don't open up the show with we're going to research this with a spectrometer, and what a spectrometer means to you. Like stop it. They don't do that. Like they have gear. They explain it, but it's not like you don't get to. It's not like that. They have to get this. This is a spirit box.
Speaker 1They gotta get the voice box in, it's gotta say something, and then they're gonna play some little fuzz and they're gonna put here I. I challenge you to anybody that watches those shows. I challenge you because they do it on every single one, with the spirit box, the voice box, whatever they call it EVPs. I challenge anyone and I'm not saying that I haven't heard like good examples of this or like real phenomena, but what they try to sell you on these TV shows is garbage. They play some gobbledygook and then they, but they put on the screen what they want you to say. Try to make out what those things are saying without reading what's at the block off the bottom of your screen and try to tell you can't ever come anywhere close.
Speaker 2To what they're saying Every once in a while they will say a name through the voice box that you're like oh yeah, okay, that's the name. But more often than not, when they're trying to string phrases, it's like filter, bias, yeah, bias, filter.
Speaker 1It's because they're putting the word on and you hear that you can't unhear it.
Speaker 2Then, even if you once you've right but well in some cases you can unhear it because it's so blatant that you're like no no, it didn't.
Speaker 1They're like it said go back to hell, you, son of a bitch. And then it's like you're just like, and're just like, and you're like what yeah? You're like that did not. Say that that did not. And, like I said, I'm not saying that that phenomena is bullshit, because I've heard good ones, but I'm just saying what they try to sell you 95% of the time on the TV shows. That's what you get.
Speaker 2Yeah, and that again's, it's just another reason why I love this phenomena. But not only do I love this phenomena, for just the very reason of, like, the possibility of ufos and aliens, what you'll mean aliens, um, about aliens, is that um and I talked about this a little bit earlier today it crosses so many things that I am obsessed with. Like I am full on obsessed with Appalachian folklore, right, but I'm more obsessed in the folklore of the humans, the human spirit, the struggle. But then when you layer in, like all these stories about don't look in the trees at night, don't whistle at night, don't look behind you at night, there's goblins in the caves, yeah, and you hear the stories.
Speaker 1It's so strange too, because, like one of the things that Ron Murphy talks about in his book about Chestnut Ridge is he talks about like always being drawn to that forest, and I relate to that much in the same way of like the forest that I grew up in. But grandma Reed used to tell me those stories you know what I mean Like of the Indian that they saw like ghosts, that they saw.
Speaker 1Like there was all these things about the forest, about these areas, this area was had this and this area. So it was like all these different little things and I it's the same thing thing out here with this and you just hear these little, just like pockets of it's like fascinating people. The people are all connected, the Appalachian people with these, like traditional folklore stories, and it says it not only connects, it says a lot about their lives, not just from the aspect of there being something paranormal, but you fear, like things that affect your life. Do you know what I mean? Like that's where these folkloric legends come from.
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Speaker 2Well, so there's a girl that I follow on TikTok Her name is Thursday Adams, and she does all the Appalachian lore, and she told a story this morning and I was like that makes a lot of sense too. She said that part of the lore comes from the moonshiners trying to get you to stay away from their steels.
Speaker 1That could very well be, and also we know a lot of the stories going back to, like my grandma's grandma, the people labeled a witch, even though that's not like how she would define herself, just like a natural healer.
Speaker 2Right you know, what I'm saying.
Speaker 1So like you label that in and you see how these things get twisted, is my point.
Speaker 2Right, right, right. Well, and there's—because I've heard this similar story and I've talked about it before about people speaking verses from the Bible and the burn coming out of somebody when they're burned like those kind of things, those all you know they come from, stuff like that. But in the Appalachia, however you say it, in the mountain range, there you've got all the different folklore.
Speaker 1You've got the Scottish Irish, German, it's almost like American voodoo, like not voodoo in any way, shape or form. I'm not suggesting that, but in the way that it took the religions and the cultures of the people and got intertwined with, like a ancient sort of practice into this more modern thing yes, yes, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 2I mean, there's not. I don't know that there is a word for it, but voodoo is particular to a region, right and sure yeah, it's a bit, but I'm saying much in that same way.
Speaker 1It took it's this outside source mixing with the local thing to create this like new thing.
Speaker 2Right, yeah, I love it so much and then and I'm sure you have so much to say on this, so I just want to segue you into it. You know that I am obsessed with like glitches in the matrix time jumps, portals, portals, portals. I love a good portal story.
Speaker 2You don't love a portal and so, like I've always kind of underlying believe that that's exactly what it is. It's just like, whatever you think of it as, or you know, like a wrinkle in time or overlapping time frames or time shift or whatever it is, it's just a energetic way to pass through.
Speaker 1It's like an overlap of dimensions and time, yeah.
Speaker 2Whether it's time travel or just travel.
Speaker 1Or dimensions. That's the question. It could be all of these things or some combination of them, but I definitely think that's where this is all headed. I mean, that's certainly, I think, the theory that most people that take a look at the entire spectrum of evidence come to. Like Stan Gordon said in that documentary that we were watching like, at the beginning he definitely thought that, like UFOs were only extraterrestrial, but as he's gone on he thinks now that that's not the case at all, that it's related to this. Ron Murphy calls it the goblin universe, this like sort of interdimensional travel, space-time continuum thing.
Speaker 2Well, so think about it. Think about this because you know I have a couple theories right.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2So I told you earlier that what if the dinosaurs just broke through the portal and like they all had to come back through the portal, which is why we believe that they went extinct but a couple of them actually like stayed here, like the Thunderbird thing that we were looking at earlier?
Speaker 1Right, right, did they? Or here's another question. So like what if they slid off all of it, like slid to this other dimension, and then they come back through occasionally, which is why we see the Thunderbirds or a loch ness monster or whatever, because you got like certain ones slipping back through or whatever. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2Like I don't know how it works well, here's my other thought, because um who, who was it? Was it hitchens? Who's christopher?
Speaker 1it's. Christopher Hitchens is more of a religious writer.
Speaker 2No, no, no, it wasn't Christopher Hitchens, it was Graham Hancock's book.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, Graham Hancock.
Speaker 2And it's always just stuck in my mind that like, so you know how, like when you go on ayahuasca trips and DMT, you see the machine elves. So what if we're just projecting what's really living inside of our brains outward like a movie projection?
Speaker 1And that's a good question and that brings up an interesting point and this is where I thought you were going with this, because Graham Hancock, I think, talks about in that same book that like what's weird about those experiences people across time, regions and cultures all report seeing the same entities.
Speaker 2Even uncivilized cultures that don't have.
Speaker 1Right that don't have. Right. That makes you question like what is it Like? What are you taking a peek at? You know what I mean Right Like it's? I don't know. It gives me the good willies you just sound like what about Bob, when he's like ooh, oh, my Atlanta.
Speaker 2No, I love it so much. And if you guys didn't see the TikTok video or Facebook or whatever, the Circles video. So, as we were walking through the venue, meeting all of these gentlemen who are well-known, well-known in the circle, Well-known researchers, well-known researchers, to your point.
Speaker 2They are the Michael Jordans of the UFO world, and we got one, two offers to go on podcasts. Dave Spinks doesn't know it yet, but we're going to creep him until he lets us do one of his shows or he just comes on the podcast because that was cool too.
Speaker 1I'm trying to take him to a haunted spot. That's what I'll do. I'll write to him and be like I got a haunted spot. I'm trying to take him. That's what I'll do. I'll write to him and be like I got a haunted spot. I got a barbecue restaurant and I got a brewery. Let's go.
Speaker 2I'll introduce him to it.
Speaker 3I'll tell you the story.
Speaker 1You can research it yourself and do all that and bring all your people. I'll just be the local guy that you talk to in the episode.
Speaker 2One of the things that we doing for this year's uh see, this season of gilded trash was doing cooking episodes and we bought a book called cooking with cryptids by david sphinx. So I say we take some of the cooking with cryptid recipes and just film cooking with cryptids and with my editing skills, who knows, maybe there'll be an alien cooking with us.
Speaker 1But no, but that brings back to another interesting point. That was like the really cool thing, like that was quite the moment. That'd be quite the show that I would watch Would be. Dave Spinks talked about that. He's working on a show where they like with the drummer from Shinedown right.
Speaker 2Right right.
Speaker 1How do you know him? But cool, and we got the inside news on some paranormal bruising cues.
Speaker 3I'm part of a new show called Booze Bruising Barbecues with my good friend Barry Kurtz, the drummer of Shinedown. Oh really, yeah. So that'll be coming out next year as well.
Speaker 2And we do a ton of cooking on that show as well.
Speaker 3It's a lot of fun. We do something fun. Well, mine's, like two of my favorite things oh so we go in the show, we go to a haunted location. We investigate it. Then we go to a local brewery and we sample all their beer, and then we go to a local barbecue joint and then we also cook, because you know our guy, our main cook guy, he's sponsored by Rectech. You're going to make him cry. So we cook something on the show too.
Speaker 1That's awesome, it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2Who do? I assign this to I know I just need him on the podcast so we can talk about how that all, because that's what I love. So Dave is kind of like he's UFOs and cryptids and like all these guys are.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah yeah, all like he's UFOs and cryptids and like all these guys are.
Speaker 2Yeah, but he's trying to do either sells down to one thing, right, but he's trying to do other things with it, which I love to love.
Speaker 1The idea for the show where they go do an investigation, they go to a local brewery and then they go check out a local barbecue place. I mean, you're basically taking every that's. What they're going to start doing now is taking all the TV shows and mashing them together. Yeah, because people don't want to see one thing.
Speaker 2You had an idea about a show which I think would be amazing. I don't know if you want to talk about it or if we want to keep it secret, but taking actual comedians or comics into paranormal Investigations yeah. Investigations and getting their reactions Like because they're caught-ups, it's funny.
Speaker 1Yeah, it'll be fun. But yeah, no, that's a lot of fun too. But I mean, yeah, like, I'm so excited that they were like even— how quick they were. They're like oh, you have a podcast, I'll come on it. They didn't ask any questions, they didn't say you have a following Because they just want to get exposure. They don't care, they just want to talk about it, and talk about it with people that like to talk about it. Yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, and we're boring sometimes talking to each other. We need a third.
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean I want to talk to people that, like I would love to ask it here and ask questions about all these things, and I'm sure some of the people that listen would love that too, and maybe people that don't listen would love to tune in for that to get to hear. But that's what I was, that's where I was going with that. I totally forgot five minutes ago. I wanted to come to this. All this brings us to right here in Johnstown this weekend Not this weekend, it's Sunday, but next weekend Squonk Fest, which we didn't even know was a thing. We learned that they're like everybody kept asking us. They're like you guys, everybody there at Kecksburg. They're like the next one up is Squonk baby, you going, and we're like I have no idea what that is.
Speaker 2Tickets I love tickets.
Speaker 1But yeah, but turns out that, yeah, there's a cryptid. So apparently Cambry County has their own cryptid. It's called the Squonk, it's like some sort of man-bear-pig thing and it's but yeah, the I'm going to learn about it. I don't know anything about it. Um, but yeah, they're having a big festival, kind of like what we just went to Same thing, vendors, speakers, all of that. Check it out.
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Speaker 2In Cambria City. It's at the Bottleworks venue, so it'll be indoor, outdoor, just like this other one was. You'll you know you'll have a chance to go inside and talk and see things. The speakers are going to be at the building at certain times, so yeah, definitely we are definitely checking it out.
Speaker 1Go check it out, squonkfest. You can check it out on any social media platform. They got plenty of stuff out there if you want to see the schedule. But it's right here in Johnstown, in Cambria City, this coming weekend, so that's going to be a lot of fun. You'll see us there if you go. That's for damn sure. That's for damn sure.
Speaker 2And we'll be taking bets on how large our book collection becomes over the next month and a half, while we hit all these festivals.
Speaker 1I got to read the ones I got first, damn.
Speaker 2You read them yeah.
Speaker 3I've been reading them.
Speaker 2I thought they were just to collect autographs.
Speaker 1I've been reading them. No, I've been reading. I don't read, I love reading.
Speaker 2I used to love to read, but I stopped at, like teenage, I don't know. I stopped reading at like teenage romance.
Speaker 1yeah, but here's the thing.
Speaker 2Well, when I was in back in the day, when I was locked up, we can go there for a minute because we have to talk about the other thing that happened on Monday.
Speaker 1I was a voracious reader, Obviously most inmates from where?
Speaker 2from where?
Speaker 1the inmates in jail.
Speaker 2That's what I said, oh I said when I was locked up I said that to begin with.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, no. That's why I said I was a voracious reader. I said, as most inmates are, um, but now the only thing that I liked it, but that was all like novel. I'd read anything whatever, but like now, the only thing that I really like to read is like non-fiction, you know.
Speaker 2I mean, like I like to learn right, right, but one of the books that you introduced me to that you found when you were in jail was like or prison, sorry, because there's a difference. I forgot Was. Is it a conversation? Well, I didn't find that in prison.
Speaker 1But yeah, no about that. It was after that. But yeah, no, that's a great book. Conversations with God Conversation yeah, there's three books, Neil Donald Walsh, Very good stuff. It's just one of those mind exercises. It teaches you to think inside of your own thoughts, which is fun.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's so good. Oh my God. And for that very reason, I love when books teach me a new perspective on my thought process, Like I love learning about that. That's exactly right.
Speaker 1That's exactly right. That's exactly right, is it? It teaches you, like I said, to like circulate your own, circumvent your own thoughts, sort of, and your way of thinking, to like sort of flip it on its head to teach you to think about things from like a different sort of viewpoint. Yeah, it's, very good Very good, it's very good, very good, it's very good.
Speaker 2So I am going to bring it up because part of my birthday package and then we'll circle back because we have so much more to talk about in this space. Part of my birthday package was that whenever Babe asked me to marry him some what 17 years ago, or something 16, 17 years ago. Some what 17 years ago, or something 16, 17 years ago he bought me a ring at the time and when we were going through it and he was being a shit bird, I threw my engagement ring into the Atlantic Ocean somewhere around Polly's Island. I don't remember. I may or may not have been on mushrooms or, wait, no, did I throw it out of the car?
Speaker 1I don't know, I don't remember. It might have been on mushrooms, or wait, no, did I throw it out the car?
Speaker 2I don't know, I don't remember it might have been driving down the highway yeah, it might have been.
Speaker 1It might have been but either way.
Speaker 2So since then I've been asking for a ring and I've only got it now. For all you bitches that are worried about it being diamond or not diamond, I've always wanted an opal. Opal is scott's birthstone. It's also my most fate. My stone is moonstone and opal is the closest thing to moonstone, so plus moonstone, moonstone, moonstone see it all, you know it all.
Speaker 1interweaves when do you get it though?
Speaker 2Moonstone, you get it from the moon.
Speaker 1Do you?
Speaker 2Yeah, they drop some off.
Speaker 1I thought that was moon rock.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, Moonstone's just mine. It's like polished stone. Yeah, opal's like the gem gem version of moon run. The gem version the uncut gems version.
Speaker 1Uncut gems speaking of speak.
Speaker 2I didn't even try to do that we watched happy gilmore too.
Speaker 1Let's talk about that, because that's something that's like Happy Gilmore for like people. Our age was like one of the most popular movies like ever for a young person. For a young stoner Adam Sandler was. He was people don't think of him this way, but he was sort of alt comedy. Think of him this way. But he was sort of old comedy like in the sense of like he was like what, we like that, like the parents didn't like like right the older people didn't like, I should say, because it was like that continued on to like into your 20s and stuff.
Speaker 1But like it was the stuff that the older people didn't like, you know what I mean? It was young people humor and it was like growing up with him and like knowing his. Everybody had his. All my friends had his comedy albums. We used to quote him all the time, you know what I mean. Like they're so good, you want a haircut, they're gonna fucking cut your hair. They say fuck the sun. You say yeah, fuck the sun. I fucking hate it too long live the fucking beast. That's one of my favorite ones. But regardless, I mean so many things. But like and Happy Gilmore was like that movie where it was like you couldn't ignore Adam Sandler anymore at that point you know what I mean. Like he was going to be a star and whether the establishment wanted that or not was left to be. You know it didn't matter. And that and Billy Mattis, you know what I mean. They came out roughly the same time and it was like these two movies solidified him as like this guy's going to be making movies now for the next 40 years.
Speaker 2I quote Billy Madison like every day. At least once a day I quote something from Billy Madison, or actually let's just say Adam Sandler in general, because I always say somebody's more important.
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Speaker 1I love that he did that. That, because he does that three times, like he does that in Happy Gilmore, he does that in Pixels, and then he does that in Happy Gilmore too, where he like says In that voice, in that same Somebody's ball went further. Right, right and but like for us, so happy Gilmore too. This is like we've been talking about it for months. We've been so jacked about this Because, despite what people say People like hate on Adam Sandler You're a dumbass. Because I love Adam Sandler and like I love his movies.
Speaker 2I know he's brilliant. I mean it's always so good, like even that. What was it? The murder mystery one? Yeah, I've watched that over and over and over.
Speaker 1They're funny and the thing is is like, is he out there? He's not out there. Adam Sandler was never out there trying to make fucking the departed, or yeah, like he's not trying to win academy awards, right, he's trying to make a movie that you can sit there and watch for 90 minutes and not like, just laugh a little, like and not care about other stuff, like that's all he's trying to do.
Speaker 2He's just here to entertain and that's exactly what he does. And can I just say that there were so many like the whole movie was cameoed the fuck up Like it was so good.
Speaker 1It was fun because he did what he does best, which is bring in the characters that everybody loves. Let them do their thing, combine it into somehow still tell a story. You know what I mean. And it was a good story.
Speaker 2It was funny, it was. I mean, the storyline was solid, like I liked it. Oh, I agree, it was fun.
Speaker 1He brought in all those real golfers, like that was cool. Scotty Scheffler was on there and Brooks Koepka and some other guys, hello. The one that I think is Scottish. Who oh? Rory McIlroy.
Speaker 2No, john Daly.
Speaker 1Yeah, John Daly was on there. That's even better because I love John Daly.
Speaker 2Oh my God, I love him.
Speaker 1John Daly is sort of like not really, but it's almost like who it's based on, because he could hit the ball super far and he was just like this drunken gambling fool that like disrupted the golf thing.
Speaker 2I just love him because he's a nut. He's a record. Yeah, he's a certified nut and he's fantastic.
Speaker 1He's a great guy.
Speaker 2He's a great guy. He's so good Like and you could just imagine he's. I mean, that rule is probably as close to his real life shenanigans as you're going to get, I think that's.
Speaker 1I don't even think he knew he was in the movie. He just thought he was hanging out with Adam Sandler.
Speaker 2He's like oh, I thought Hacker Gilmore was real Because his daughters were in the movie. He's like oh, I thought these were your real sons too. Right, I love it. I love it. Plus, shout out I don't know the kid's name, but the little kid from Shameless was in there, which I love. That just brings my whole life full circle when I get those moments Like we don't live in, we live in an infinite world, right? So the fact that so many things in my life like cross-section all the time, it's like I'm right where I'm supposed to be, yeah, that's all yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 1But yeah, no, it was definitely a fun movie. I mean, I had a good time with it and I think anybody. If you love Happy Gilmore and you like Adam Sandler, you'll like Happy Gilmore too. That's all I'm going to say. It's not like it's not a masterpiece.
Speaker 2It wasn't disappointing at all. No, it did not disappoint A lot of those like long break. Second follow-up movies are disappointing. No.
Speaker 1Or weird, but no, it still had a great story. It was still fun. It was very believable that that's where it picked up.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like I don't want to give the plot or the storyline away because those fucking assholes, but yes.
Speaker 1It's just believable that that's where that would have gone. Like it's just, it's fun, man, it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2Yeah, and the villains are so villain-esque. I love it so perfect, I love it.
Speaker 1But that's why we mentioned Uncut Gems, because the guy that produced and wrote Uncut Gems is in the movie in Happy Gilmore 2, is one of the villains and yeah you get it.
Speaker 2Yeah, he's good at it. Yeah, he's good at it, but that wasn't the only amazing movie we've watched this weekend. What did we watch last?
Speaker 1week, oh my God, total surprise Death of a unicorn. Right, talk about good movie, dude. Totally original, unlike really any movie that I've watched recently. And it was fun, it was entertaining, it was fantastic. Uh, if you have not seen that death of a unicorn, that is a great movie. We really enjoyed it's so much fun comedy, horror fantasy, all wrapped up into one and a moral story like morality yeah what's crazy about this whole this movie?
Speaker 2so I also watched um we were liars the series. We were liars while I was doing things. I was binge watching it yesterday while I was cleaning, doing other stuff, and the show felt to me like fan fiction of media moguls getting their just due.
Speaker 2Yeah, like whatever happens at the end it was like fan fiction. When you want the media empire to fall right, that's what we Were Liars felt like there's a price to pay for being, you know this, rich and blah, blah, blah. That was sad and sappy and it was a great teenage drama thing. Death of a unicorn again it felt very much like fan fiction for the pharmaceutical heads, right. So while it was good, entertaining, fucking great movie, great cast at the end of the day you like there was a vengeance is mine theme there again?
Speaker 1well, yeah, and I think that that's the idea, more so than like it's a revenge film, and I think that that's. It's a revenge film and the target in this instance is the pharmaceutical industry and it sort of weaves, like you said, this sort of like medieval tale into it with modern sort of stuff and it's very interesting, very good, very well, very well put together, very well done. Go check it out if you haven't. Those are movie recommendations Happy Gilmore.
Speaker 2Plus, like one of the favorite, one of my favorite things about that is the campiness right. So I love when something can be both smart, funny and campy all at the same time. It's not like that dark humor that I love. I'm a big fan of dark humor.
Speaker 1I think there's a lot of horror movies that do that well. That's why people love the zombie lands and the stuff like that, because it allows you to take on something serious like that but still have camp, still be smart, still say something. But because you're within this genre of a zombie movie and playing off these tropes and things, you can say something you can't otherwise say, just like I talk about when writing jokes. I love writing jokes where you can say something without really saying it because you're in the context of something ridiculous. So you sort of have a freedom that you don't otherwise have artistically.
Speaker 2Right, yeah, I like that. There was so many other things going on this ridiculous, so you sort of have a freedom that you don't otherwise have. Artistically right. Yeah, I like that. There was so many other things going on this week that I felt like we wanted to talk about. I mean, I don't want to talk about any of my social media bullshit other than to say I call you bitches.
Speaker 1Um, no, we got a very busy month. We can talk about that. We have lots of comedy things coming up.
Speaker 2We have lots of other stuff coming up.
Speaker 1You know what I mean. Like, we have all kinds of things. We're going to be in Pittsburgh next month for a wedding that's going to be very fun, for a fancy wedding.
Speaker 2We don't ever do that.
Speaker 1The fanciest we ever do. I'm scared, I'm scared, I'm scared. No, I am. I'm terrified of black tie. That sounds evil, but I don't like it.
Speaker 2I can't wait to look Gown hair nails. It's a girl thing. I'm already thinking about taking my suit off. But wait, you've been trying to pull together a bunch of the wedding folks to go to a comedy show.
Speaker 1No, that's not happening, we're going to take her.
Speaker 2They have their after hours venues, so instead we might just kamikaze karaoke them Ambush, ambush, ambush.
Speaker 1Ambush them Any chuckle fuckers out there this evening.
Speaker 2Yeah, oh God, that'd be hilarious we are going to our very first open mic slash comedy tonight.
Speaker 1Open mic slash karaoke. Oh God, that changes it when it's open mic slash comedy. That's what we go to all the time.
Speaker 2All the time Open mic comedy, slash karaoke.
Speaker 3Karaoke yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah that'll be, fun, his thing and my thing all together in things.
Speaker 1All together into one thing.
Speaker 2Sometimes I try to do his thing and I'm not that good at it, and sometimes he tries to do my thing and he's not that good at it?
Speaker 1Oh, I'm not good at it at all. You know what I do. It's either Freddie Fender or Young Jeezy. That's how we roll.
Speaker 2So yeah, you've got some comedy stuff coming up.
Speaker 1We have adventures.
Speaker 2Well, we can't talk about those adventures.
Speaker 1Yeah, I know, I remember now. I remember now, damn it.
Speaker 2Damn it, damn it. It doesn't matter, we can wrap it up In two weeks. We are going to be talking about what?
Speaker 1And what we're going to be talking about, because we're putting together a. So we do have a lot of stuff coming up and we're possibly talking about putting together our own little super secret show. That's going to be a full-deal barbecue comedy get-down Are you kidding me? And we're going to talk a little bit about that next time. And we're going to talk about our latest adventures because we're going to be investigating. We're going to be out there checking out UFOs, Bigfoots, comedy events, karaoke contests, food trucks, baseball games I don't know Movies.
Speaker 2We might go to a baseball game.
Speaker 1You never know what we might do. Yeah, I'm going to watch Final Destination next week.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah, we got to hit a drive-in. Yeah, we got to hit a drive-in. Yeah, we got to hit a drive-in.
Speaker 1We'll talk about drive-in history next time too. That's a good topic. Okay, like all that stuff, you know what I mean the rich drive-in history of Western Pennsylvania. But yeah, no, that's all going to be great. I think That'll be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2And I had a super secret idea while we were talking. I really want to do a TV series and I don't know if I'm keeping this in because I might want to keep it quiet. I want to do a TV series just going—we've talked about going through Appalachia before but it was for different reasons right To meet the wonderful wife, to go sing karaoke with Mamie. I say we just go to Appalachia and talk to people about the folklore and just like have them like, walk us through.
Speaker 1Yeah, just be like. You guys seen any cryptids out here? Where's Bigfoot hanging out down here in his town? What do you say, guys? You got some pepperoni rolls for this guy? Bigfoot loves pepperoni rolls, as do I. Yes, no, but I would. I would love to go check out the Mothman Bigfoot all through Appalachia. They got goblins down in Kentucky. I mean we could come on now hit some Music Fest, moonshine Fest, ufo Fest. I'm down, let's go.
Speaker 2You can get me back out in Ohio for Mothman. I can do it. I love Mothman and I love Ohio, for whatever reason.
Speaker 1Why is he in?
Speaker 2Ohio, because that's where he started.
Speaker 1I thought he started in Point Pleasant, West Virginia. That's near Ohio.
Speaker 2Oh, it is, You're right. Okay, then we'll go out to Ohio for other reasons.
Speaker 1That's what I'm saying. I like Ohio too. I love me some Pettits. I love all that stuff, but I'm trying to get down there in West Virginia and find these cryptids. I just did. Oh shout out Hulk Hogan, love you brother.
Speaker 2Shout out all the people. Yeah, we lost some big ones.
Speaker 1This week Malcolm, Jamal, Warner, Ozzy and Hulk Hogan. That's like 80s childhood. It's like who else? Who's next? Bill Cosby? No.
Speaker 2I hate you.
Speaker 1It's time for Scott's thoughts. But first we were at the Pittsburgh UFO Festival. As you've already heard, our favorite purchase three years ago was this guy right here, this guy no, this guy right here. As you see, they are wonderful. They are made by a guy that runs a company called Legendary Luminaries. I mean, look at them, they're great, they're beautiful. We get asked about them all the time. People always want to know where'd you get those legendary luminaries? Now on to my thoughts. But it's more of a question really. There is these aliens out there traveling through space, checking everything out. What are they doing with all their garbage? Garbage? They just toss it out the window. Is there like a floating island of alien plastic, like there is in the Pacific Ocean just floating around? And it's just alien garbage. I think somebody needs to talk about this. Nobody's talking about this, but it's important to get a tip on this problem. So those are my thoughts. Stay trashy.
Speaker 2Until next time, stay trashy. Until next time, stay trashy.
Speaker 3So buckle up y'all. It's a hell of a ride. Scott and Atlanta got nothing to hide. From the gold to the garbage, we bring the sass. Welcome aboard. This is.
Speaker 2Gilded Trash Bye-bye.