Gilded Trash
Ride shotgun with Comedian Scott Reed and Creator AlannaB as they travel the country in search of ...what? When they figure it out, you'll be the first to know!
Gilded Trash
Yinz Might Have the Sight
Get ready to laugh and learn as we embark on part two of our paranormal series, kicking off with a humorous salute to the Steelers before diving into the fascinating world of the "Clairs." We'll demystify clairvoyance, claircognizance, clairsalience, clairaudience, and clairtangency with personal stories and playful banter—ever tasted something you ate hours ago (maybe heartburn) or heard unexplained music? Join us for a light-hearted yet informative take on these intriguing psychic phenomena.
Journey with us through Pennsylvania's folklore and cryptids as we reminisce about charming small towns and legendary creatures like the Snallygaster, Mothman, and thunderbirds. We touch on the American adaptations of Grimm's fairy tales and the concept of "high strangeness" introduced by UFO researcher J. Allen Hynek. Our passion for folklore and mythical creatures shines through in our lively discussion, bringing these local legends to life while adding a touch of humor and personal anecdotes.
Finally, prepare to be spooked as we recount terrifying personal encounters with the paranormal, including ghost stories, sleep paralysis, and UFO sightings. We'll explore the Kecksburg incident, alien theories, and even the Mandela Effect, weaving together tales of interdimensional beings and potential future humans. With thought-provoking discussions, spine-chilling stories, and plenty of laughs, this episode is a rollercoaster of paranormal intrigue you won't want to miss.
UPCOMING EPISODES
OCTOBER WEBSITE AND YOUTUBE PROMO
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Speaker 2:You just jump right in with us. First of all, welcome to part two of our two-part Paranormal series. Normally at this point in the show we do a callback to the previous episode. I mean, this entire episode is going to be a callback and then some. So where do you want to start?
Speaker 1:I would like to start with saying that the Steelers gave one hell of an effort today and that Justin Fields answered a lot of questions and asked some more questions, so we're left with nothing. But what do we have on the list to call back this episode?
Speaker 2:Sorry, steelers fans. Yeah, sorry, it's because he didn't take the terrible towels down today. He forgot. I'm going to blame it on you. We can start with the Clares, I guess. Get that list out of the way real quickly, because that's a full-on touch bag. So what do we have?
Speaker 1:Where's the part about things we have to touch back on now?
Speaker 2:I mean pretty much all of it is like intertwined with the rest of it. So the two um key touchbacks are the claire's. The list of claire's I'll just go into that yeah's the list of Claire's. As in.
Speaker 1:I'm Claire Gustin's, although I'm the opposite of Claire Gustin's things. Claire Gustin's is the ability to taste without having eaten. I'm going through the opposite of that, where I'm tasting things I've previously eaten.
Speaker 2:Oh, otherwise known as heartburn yeah, or something like that so there's a whole list of clairs. Um, and I was I was wrong on some of them. Um, so clairvoyance is information through vision, so voy voyeur vision. Um, and so somebody who's clairvoyant usually sees pictures that they can associate. Um, I think tyler henry might be clairvoyant when he's a medium. Um, some people see pictures.
Speaker 1:That's debatable based on what he was saying the last time um, it's a tough time.
Speaker 2:So claircognizance is one of the ones that I have, which is clear knowing um? That's the one I really struggle with at work because, like, how do I explain to my boss that I know something without it's like showing the work in math, like I can't show my work.
Speaker 1:I just know, yeah, certain things people just have a knack for being able to eyeball it. That's where the term eyeball comes from. A little fact there for you, that's true.
Speaker 2:It's definitely not.
Speaker 1:Claire Aliens. That's where you hear an alien.
Speaker 2:So I took that off of a website directly, did not change it. They spelled it wrong because it didn't sound right to me. It's Claire Salience, ah. Website directly did not change it.
Speaker 1:They spelled it wrong because I it didn't sound right to me it's clairsalience. Ah, I like clairsalience better because that means that you see aliens I do.
Speaker 2:I mean I don't. I've never seen an alien like are you clairvoyant?
Speaker 1:no, I'm clairalience, I'm clearly an alien and they're like oh, I see aliens hi I'm.
Speaker 2:Claire's Aliens is one of the other ones that I wrote. Claire of Tangency, hold on a second, let's talk about it. So Claire's Aliens is the heightened ability to smell things, even phantom smells, so we talked about that in the last episode. You can smell bears.
Speaker 1:No, but I'm saying, bears smell is like 6,000 times more powerful than a human.
Speaker 2:Oh then, yeah, I'm part bear. Claire audience obviously is hearing audible sounds from well, the non-obvious part is other realms. I don't know if that's obvious or not, but Claire audience is hearing sounds, so like people who have Claire audience can um hear music like we did. But I think that music was like a ghost pattern.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't think that just because you do something doesn't mean you have it, doesn't mean you have that ability just cause we heard like a phantom noise Doesn't mean that we suddenly have this ability. We just happened to these things more If you can have the ability to not necessarily on command, but have the ability to do it outside of like repeatedly right, right, repeatedly Right, just isolated incidents, because it's a heightened ability.
Speaker 2:It's not just like a flash Cause the flashes, it's an ability.
Speaker 1:It's not a circumstance.
Speaker 2:Right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Like it's those things happen to us. We didn't have the ability to hear it.
Speaker 2:Right, that's exactly it, you know that's a great.
Speaker 1:What we're referencing is when we heard music playing that we couldn't figure out the source of.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:In one of our previous homes. That didn't mean that we were claire audience, although I would like to say next time that I'm doing stand-up, I'm gonna be like, please don't be just an audience, be a claire audience oh my god please be a claire audience okay, so you wanted to jump down to Claire tangency. Well, I'd like to talk more about Claire.
Speaker 2:Gustins, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Claire Gustamante.
Speaker 2:You just want to say that word. Claire Gustamante, claire Gustins, I like it. Claire Gustamante, mucho gusto.
Speaker 1:Claire Gustins. How is it? Is it Claire Gustins, gustins?
Speaker 2:Yeah or Gustans. I think it's Gustans because it's something to do with Claire Gustans.
Speaker 1:Is it Claire Gustans?
Speaker 2:No, no, but it's about toast.
Speaker 1:C-L-A-I-R-A-L. Oh no, I'm looking at the wrong one C-L-A-I-R-G-U-S-T-A-N-C-E. I wonder, Just so somebody that's listening knows what we're talking about. Is it Gustens, Gustens or Klerkestans?
Speaker 2:No, it's not Klerkestans. Stop doing that. That sounds like a German. You're hurting my brain.
Speaker 1:That sounds like a German word Be like he's. Hitler took a very strong cleric stance.
Speaker 2:I mean technically he did because he was starving, though, so I wonder if that's where the term go, for the gusto comes from gusto gusto, go for the gusto is what I like to do nobody says that, though you're acting like a real silly gusto. Okay, so clear tangency. This is what a lot of mediums do to get like a feeling Tangerine.
Speaker 1:Is that where the same word comes from?
Speaker 2:No, tangent, tangent, tangible, tangible. Yeah To touch. Tangerines comes from no, tangent, tangent, tangible, tangible.
Speaker 1:Yeah to touch, yes, no tangerine something I bet it's got something to do with it. Tango probably comes from the same word.
Speaker 2:It takes two um, so it's the, it's the gift of touch, basically, um, which sounds really gross when you I've got the gift of touch. Sounds like something joe biden has the gift of clear, clare tangency clare tangency, clare tangency it sounds like an irish allergy.
Speaker 1:I've got clare tangency. Picks me up some of that Clareton Jensey from the store. That wasn't whatever.
Speaker 2:That was more Scottish than Irish, but I'll take it. But yeah, like you know what's her name, what was that Warren lady's name? The Warrens Diane Diane, you said that so well, I'm on fire today, buddy, I tell you. Diane Warren is a singer. I know she's a singer.
Speaker 1:She's one of the most talented songwriters in history.
Speaker 2:She's very Claire-oddient. No, lorraine Warren, I think she was Claire Tangent. Right, that was Ed. Yeah, ed and Lorraine. Yeah, ed and Lorraine Warren, I think she was Claire Tangent.
Speaker 1:Right, that was Ed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Ed and Lorraine. Yeah, Ed and Lorraine. This is the last one and this is the one that I have the most of, so I have Claire.
Speaker 1:Claire.
Speaker 2:Sentience, claire, sentience, claire, sentience.
Speaker 1:I like to speak very Claire Sentences.
Speaker 2:I'm a sentient. What is a sentient being? I don't want to say that out loud if I'm not. It's like when AI comes to life. Oh yeah, it feels.
Speaker 1:That's what it is. It's like when you feel, because that's what sentient means. It's like if you say that the AI became sentient, it means that it has feelings. It's like has consciousness.
Speaker 2:Oh, chappy, chappy, great movie. I love chappy, so I am. I am Claire, sentient, and so that means, why are you making that face Chappy?
Speaker 1:No, maybe sad, um haircut though that guy, this South African rap white rappers.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, very, it was very bizarre.
Speaker 1:Very bizarre Very weird Ninja.
Speaker 2:I love their accents, though. It's almost like they have so that South African accent. It's almost like they have a computer in the back of their. It's fun, it's like they click, like it's a fun accent. I'm going to have to do that. I'm going to have to do that. I'm going to have to learn that accent. So, claire's Indians, that's what I am, and I am a fucking emotional bowl of jello most days, which is why I stay away from people, because the more also, speaking about the last show, Lasher slasher.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I totally forgot about that, thank you. So, if you all remember or not, I called upon the demon spirit Lasher to do my bidding.
Speaker 1:I think you told the story.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did tell the story, but what I forgot to tell you all is that. So what was I talking about?
Speaker 1:You were talking about.
Speaker 2:You were talking about. Be, arthur, don't be too wild on your tangents. Last night was comedy. Today's podcast.
Speaker 1:It's gotta be funny too.
Speaker 2:A little bit Um. So the next day after I call, after I had that experience where I believe there was a dark shadow in my room, my ex-husband called me to ask me if I had been near his girlfriend's house. I hadn't, but I asked why, of course, and it was because she had just gotten her eagle talon out of the paint shop, gotten a brand new paint job, and somehow there was human. He said there was human feces smeared all over it Human feces.
Speaker 1:Yeah, pup. Pup, I don't know how he knew that it was human and not dog, or horse or snail, yes, or something else with talons, I know, and it was down near not dog or horse or snelly gas or something else with talons.
Speaker 2:I know, and it was down near maryland that part of maryland it could have been, could have very well been, could have been.
Speaker 1:But that brings us to.
Speaker 2:Brings us to cryptids so it's fall wedding season, which I am overjoyed about, and last year I, I think I swear we've been to a Halloween wedding every single year, for, like the last.
Speaker 1:I think this was like three years ago.
Speaker 2:It was two, was it? I don't think it was the first year we moved up here, but I could be wrong.
Speaker 1:When did they get married?
Speaker 2:Bryce and Ellie. How long have you been married?
Speaker 1:Regardless.
Speaker 2:Regardless Fall weddings, I love them, them. We were at a fall wedding. We decided we were gonna drive around frederick hanging out because fall wedding in frederick maryland yeah and so we were just killing time between whatever events were going on. And what's that little town that I love? That's really quaint and artsy. It puts me in the mind of Penmar, or my brain wants to say Burkittsville, which is a whole different thing. It's not. It's definitely not, that's just a little strip of houses.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not Burkittsville and it's not Walkersville, but it's out around there and it's where they had that. It's where the Snallygaster originated. I was doing research on that town, middle town, it's middle town but there's a little tinier town.
Speaker 1:There's tinier towns around. Yeah, I don't know which one you're talking about, it's around middle town but there's a lot of really. There's a lot of good towns out that way.
Speaker 2:Really cute old it looks like. It puts me in the mind of what Nantucket would have looked like in the 1890s. I don't know why. That's where my brain goes.
Speaker 1:What's Nantucket look like now.
Speaker 2:Modern Beach Homes, millionaires. Where is Nantucket, rhode Island? Modern beach homes, millionaires? Where is Nantucket, rhode Island, rhode Island, up that way somewhere? I'm like this this is my logic. We live in Pennsylvania, so Nantucket is that way. If I'm looking at a map up there, so the that way, if I'm looking at a map Up there, up there. So the Snallygaster, interestingly enough, was used by what's that lady's name? Jk Rowling.
Speaker 1:She wrote about it. Well, she created like a fictional thing named the Snallygaster. Basically, back in the old days it was a big bird. Right there's a big, giant bird, a thunderbird, coming to get you it had. Thunderbirds have been reported to have been seen all over pennsylvania the bryn mar beast or whatever it's right out by philly or whatever um a long history of big giant. I mean all over the United States.
Speaker 2:I mean, and you could actually even lump the Mothman in with those- a giant bird thing, something with wings that has big eyes snatches people talons no talons.
Speaker 1:I don't think the Mothman ever snatched nobody, though. These birds snatch people.
Speaker 2:That's what they're known for the Mothman was just a doomsayer right, he's like a harbinger.
Speaker 1:Harbinger, I love that word.
Speaker 2:These birds snatch people. That's what they're known for. The Mothman was just a doomsayer, right, he's like a harbinger Harbinger. I love that word Harbinger of doom. It's such an evil word but it sounds pretty. It reminds me of Harbinger of doom. Harbinger reminds me of Harlequin Like the. Harlequin romance novels I love those words so.
Speaker 1:Snallygasters. But yeah, my family probably did them, they probably got them.
Speaker 2:Well, no, because it started with German folklore in that valley of Maryland where your family settled, where my family's from, and they're Germans.
Speaker 1:Exactly, those bastards were Germans.
Speaker 2:I think they're the ones that started the Snelligaster rumors, and I can actually see Mary Wetzel Reed.
Speaker 1:Long before that, long before that, but I could see some of the people that were down there, some of the you could see how the folklore was heavily passed through the generations. Oh, big time I love it, and my grandma used to tell me stories not about big giant birds snatching people out of the sky, but various cryptid like phenomena. You know what I mean Mythical creatures that roam the woods.
Speaker 2:Right, well, again they like. You think of Grimm's fairy tales. Those came over here from over there and they all have mystical creatures where there's forest people are going to make up stories about beast being in there.
Speaker 1:There's lots of forest. When they brought the forest of europe, when they brought those stories over, they put them right in pennsylvania instead I love it well.
Speaker 2:Well, Pennsylvania has some gorgeous forests. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:I mean doesn't Vania mean woods? It does, yeah, yes.
Speaker 2:So it's like Well, I mean, and water, or forest, or whatever Right. So anywhere there's woods and anywhere there's water, pretty much anywhere there's earth there's mythical creatures, let's be real People.
Speaker 1:they're always like where there's forest. Well, I mean granted, there's not forest everywhere, but there's a lot of fucking forest.
Speaker 2:And there's a lot of mythical creatures, and there's a lot of mythical creatures and Pennsylvania is home to quite a few.
Speaker 1:A long history of mythical creatures. Yes, we got dogmans, and right nearby here there's a big Bigfoot thing. People really see Bigfoot here in. Pennsylvania, western Pennsylvania is actually like a hotspot. Again. We talked about the connectivity between Bigfoots, cryptids, ufos, hauntings, because, just like at Skinwalker Ranch, they experience poltergeist activity, creatures, ufo sightings.
Speaker 2:Strange illnesses.
Speaker 1:High strangeness.
Speaker 2:High strangeness Gina who coined that term.
Speaker 1:I don't. J Allen Heinrich, I believe, is the guy's name.
Speaker 2:J Allen Heinrich, who was? That, I believe, is the guy's name.
Speaker 1:J Allen Heinrich is the guy that coined that term, so he was originally Not to be confused with Heimlich. He well, so he was involved with. I don't know who was in charge of Project Blue Book, whether it was like the CIA, somebody in the government. Project Blue Book was like the thing where they were like investigating ufos. Jay allen heineck worked for the government and then he became like the leading ufo researcher. He actually consulted on close encounters of the third kind, the reason.
Speaker 1:That's where I even knew what to do double click was because jay allen heineck was like the consultant and actually in the movie he's like the one that first goes into up to the ship to greet the aliens oh, I could watch that movie, but um I love that movie he uh yeah, he also coined the term, I believe, close encounter so and he wrote a book about like he went from being like the government thing and he must have seen like so much to it that he like started to believe the people or whatever, and kind of started working for the other side. I guess you could say I like it.
Speaker 2:I love conspiracies, but we will get to UFOs. We're going to talk about cryptids for just another minute, so I didn't look into this one, but there's something called the Waterford Sheep man and it's a humanoid that's covered in horns, kind of like the Whoa that sounds scary. What's that movie Role Models? It's like the Minotaur.
Speaker 1:Oh right.
Speaker 2:No, I'm just making that up, I mean, but it terrorized Waterford in the 1970s. Where's Waterford? Somewhere in Pennsylvania? I'm going to guess that it's over by Philly. I could be wrong. That's a great guess. I have Claire Cognizant. That's a great guess, not.
Speaker 1:Claire Geography.
Speaker 2:I don't have Claire Geography no.
Speaker 1:I have Claire Carmen San Diego.
Speaker 2:I have Claire. Where's Waldo? So, speaking of water, like I said, you've got Raystown Ray, who's very much the Loch Ness of central Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1:I think every lake's got a monster. I mean that's everywhere in the United States.
Speaker 2:And they probably really do like humongous fish that have survived. But Raystown is self-made, it's man-made Right. And they probably really do like humongous fish that have survived. But Raystown is self-made, it's man-made right. So how I mean kind of it's a flooded river is what they call it.
Speaker 1:It's a man-made lake.
Speaker 2:It's a dammed river.
Speaker 1:Well then, a netty could have got there, it is natural like in the sense of like there was water there, but they like falsify the levels because they damn it up and then it just gets big right, get the lake right so it's man-made in a sense, but it's. Was there a giant river beast there before? Is the real question. I think you have to ask yourself who could forget the squonk I love that we talked to uh brin athens brn.
Speaker 2:Athyn. What did I say? Yeah, you said that.
Speaker 1:Bryn Athyn.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you didn't say Bryn Mawr, that's not even in Pennsylvania. Is that in Pennsylvania? I have no idea.
Speaker 1:But you said it right. All these Bryn words. I don't even know what that means. Stop using that B-R-Y-N. What kind of word is that I? Think it's irish well, that tells you a lot about it hi, your boss might be listening it's not an insult I'm just saying so here's one that I'd never heard of.
Speaker 2:Is there two broad tops in pennsylvania? There's probably a lot because the broad top that I know is the one outside of gettysburg right and right.
Speaker 1:So it's weird, because it's broad top is one of those terms. It's like south mountain, right? You know what I'm saying? It's like every region has like a something they call that, because it's like people weren't that creative back in the day. They didn't know that there was going to be 19,000 broad tops by the time they got done and they kept on going with it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm with you. What else the?
Speaker 1:Dog man of Westmoreland County. That's one of my favorites.
Speaker 2:I mean wolf boy Wolfie.
Speaker 1:Wolfie Running around. Actually we I will say this we have seen a Sasquatch right here in town In Moxham.
Speaker 2:Many a sighting. I've seen him walk into Bilo.
Speaker 1:I've seen him at karaoke.
Speaker 2:Shopping in Bilo. Did you just fart?
Speaker 1:Really bad. We're going to have to cut that out. I'm not cutting it. Yeah, did you just fart Really?
Speaker 2:bad, we're going to have to cut that out. Put a mark on there, yeah.
Speaker 1:Put a mark on there because I probably made a face and everything. Leave it at that.
Speaker 2:Sorry, Okay. So let's talk about I don't even know how to say this one.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about the giggle goggle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't even know how to say it, it's called giggle goggle G-I-Woggle, g-i-woggle, g-i-woggle. G-i-woggle. I don't even want to say it again.
Speaker 1:I feel like that should just be a search engine to compete with Google. Google.
Speaker 2:However, it's another one of those filthy creatures that does the bidding of witches.
Speaker 1:The witches are always involved With people doing Demons, witches and bidding. They're all in cryptids All things are doing bidding for witches and they're using things around them to do their bidding Demons, cryptids, foxfire.
Speaker 2:It's crazy. It's crazy. So one more callback real quickly, and then we're going to get into UFOs for a secundo. Yeah, so one of my favorite stories that you used to tell me is your dad's ghost story from Linganore.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I mean there's not a lot to that one. No, but it's just so awesome, no dad just was and my dad's had a history of paranormal activity.
Speaker 1:one might say he's claire gustin's no no, I mean, these boys like to eat, but no, no he's, but he's no, I'm just saying he's had numerous paranormal things, but the scariest one that he always says is that he was at the top of the he I don't know if he heard a noise or something downstairs and he like went to the top of the stairs and like or was coming down the stairs and there was like a, a boy and he said it was so super real. And then, like he ran up the stairs and ran through him and dad said it was like real cold and real chilling and he was like really freaked out about it and then, like come to find out that the neighbors so it was a half a house right the neighbors were like experiencing like weird stuff there I love it, but, uh, I love it, yeah, very scary.
Speaker 1:I love ghost stories um, I had a few sleep paralysis episodes in the basement where I heard things coming down the stairs and then opening my door and coming in and getting me, coming up between me and the mattress. You know what I mean, and like it would be that's scary sleep paralysis.
Speaker 2:You never had that happen I mean, I chalk it up to sleep paralysis because, like I woke up, like I mean there were a lot. I mean I've had like the dreams where, like I've been punching things and it felt like I was hitting pillows or whatever.
Speaker 1:As somebody that's had numerous sleep paralysis dreams. It always involves something coming to you like I had that. I had it happen when I was a teenager at the house home in green castle, and it would be like something in the basement and I don't know what it was because I would never be looking right and like, if it's gonna get me, I don't want to see it Right.
Speaker 1:Always like come. That one didn't come up between me and the mattress. That one just like came over top of me and then, like I woke up, like I'd be like and that would wake me up. And that's how I knew it was just a dream, but it's weird how it always involves something coming to get you. That's why people think it's so real.
Speaker 2:Maybe it is coming to get you. That's why people think it's so real. Right, it is hell. I don't know like. I don't like my feet sticking out because I'm scared to death that something's gonna touch my feet. Um, I don't know why. It's irrational because, but I just don't want anybody touching my feet.
Speaker 1:If they're gonna get me, they can get me through the blankets, I don't care what's weird, I guess, is the time that I uh, I mean I've still right now I've had some sleep paralysis, but I was just gonna say that I used to be scared of like things like that. I think the more scared you are of it, I feel like the more likely it is well, I mean if that makes sense we're going to unpack all this anytime soon.
Speaker 2:But in my dreams a lot, I was preparing for battle, so I was always doing feats of craziness. That's so strange. Well, one of mine was that in my dreams I always was able to jump from the top of my stairs to the bottom step without getting hurt, and it was a recurring dream for me and it was part of my getting away plan.
Speaker 1:So I've flown a couple times.
Speaker 2:I love those dreams flying you kidding me well, I think the first time I flew, I realized that I didn't have a cape on and I was like what the fuck is this? You can fly without a cape. Um so when I yeah, when I was younger, my dreams had me believing that I was going to be like a superhero someday. But again, I am going to be a superhero. Um so, ufos I'm going to dive in. Just because I am Claire salient does not mean I want to smell extra things today. Um so my mom has been telling me this story story for years, and steery, steery.
Speaker 2:My mom's been telling me this and she asked me not to say her name, even though anybody who knows me knows her name. So I'm not going to say her name, but my mom, to protect the innocent, someone who helped raise me. But it takes away from the story, so I have to tell it this way, right? So my dad lived in wimber and my mom lived in johnstown when they first started dating, so like she was hanging out at his house and then she left his house to go back down to her parents' house. Now, she originally thought this was in 72, which wouldn't have coincided with my thoughts and dreams, but um, it was actually in my dad believes it was in 74. Was actually in my dad believes it was in 74. So she left my dad's house and was coming down 219 and she saw a bunch of people pulled over and we're at 219, she said outside of solomon homes.
Speaker 2:But that doesn't make sense to me because I thought that was 56, 56, okay, so she was coming down 56 and if you know the person we're talking about.
Speaker 1:This is a very common error.
Speaker 2:So she was coming down. She said it was outside the Solomon homes and every there was a bunch of people pulled over. So she pulled over to see why they were pulled over and they were all looking at these lights up in the sky.
Speaker 1:And this is way before Starlink. Has somebody seen lights in the sky? How many times will you watch these things? People catch on camera.
Speaker 2:Nowadays it's Starlink, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, there's a lot more shit in the sky.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Nowadays, which is why you get a ton of videos that are.
Speaker 2:Right. But this is the 70s Right. There's not a lot.
Speaker 1:Right Outside that are Right, but this is the 70s Right. There's not a lot Right Outside of airplanes, helicopters, I mean that's pretty much it Right. Right, I mean not that they didn't have some satellites, but you get the idea.
Speaker 2:No, exactly. So what would you say? The commute from Wimber to Johnstown is Maybe 20 minutes At the most. At the most, I mean my mom In heavy traffic. Yeah, my mom's a good driver and she's probably driving the speed limit We'll say 15 is probably more realistic. But she came down the highway yeah, about 15 minutes to get from Wimber to Johnstone where she lived. When she got home she called my dad and he said why did it take you two hours to get home?
Speaker 1:He thought she stopped off at the old illegal gambling the old sugar shack gambling, then in the back of the laundry mat.
Speaker 2:Oh, what was it remember yeah, but remember that um lady that did comedy in pittsburgh, um, that was from johnstown. She was talking about the old dance, the old dance hall, the old band hall, the old band hall. But anyways, star, star, something or other, it doesn't matter. Regardless of all this, my whole point of this story is that my mom doesn't believe that she was standing outside of her car for two hours.
Speaker 1:She was by herself.
Speaker 2:She was by herself, but there were other vehicles stopped like families and other people. So if it was any time between October 1st-ish of 1974 and July 17th-ish of 1975, then I may seriously be an alien baby.
Speaker 1:I think she would remember if it was closer to your birthday, because that would be in the story. She'd be like I was eight months pregnant.
Speaker 2:Right, exactly, and I already wasn't feeling good.
Speaker 1:You know your mom's stories.
Speaker 2:Exactly but for real, if it was any time between October 1st and the end of November, which is likely but not.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:We don't know.
Speaker 1:You're a clear alien.
Speaker 2:I've been? How many days have I woke up and said I don't think I belong here, I'm an alien.
Speaker 1:Right, which is also a thing that people think, but maybe they really are.
Speaker 2:That's the thing. Well, it's linked to autism now.
Speaker 1:so Maybe that's linked to aliens. So there you go.
Speaker 2:So when I went to open my iPad, it was 523. Whoa, Is that my son telling me that I was an alien from the beyond?
Speaker 1:You're an alien baby, but it very well could be. But let's talk about alien abductions yeah that's a very common theme, like your mom's story, like it hits a lot of the point missing time, like other people there, like don't really you know what I mean, don't really remember right, you know what I mean. Right, all of that with loss that very common among so the fact that the stories do make so much, have so much overlap with each other. It's like something's going on.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:But like what is it? I guess we don't really know. But Well, I don't have any alien abduction stories. I don't know anybody that that happened to. But you know that I did see me and our nephew. We were in Myrtle Beach, which is a huge hotspot. Yes, people see there's been reports of UFOs being chafed by fighter jets because there's like well, we do that one show in South yeah.
Speaker 1:There is a Air Force base in South Carolina that does a lot of practice, stuff like out over the ocean and stuff there. So you see a lot of lights. But there's these reports. There's things that you know, like what can and can't happen. What we saw was nothing.
Speaker 2:People who study it know what's going on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what we saw was nothing like that. We weren't the only ones there. You remember there's a small crowd there on the beach. We're watching these lights. They were like going into each other. They were like a bunch of lights. There was like one light. They were like in it.
Speaker 2:It was very weird and it wasn't like one of those.
Speaker 1:It was on the ocean, so we definitely know it was way out there it was not one of those marquee things that's like doing an event.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was way out in the ocean.
Speaker 1:Like it was strange enough that there was a small crowd there watching this. Like what is that?
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And we talked to other people, other locals, that had seen stuff that was really crazy out there. Cameron still talks about it. I just mentioned his name like a dummy, but whatever, who cares. He was in the Navy and he told me that he never saw anything when he was out on any of them ships. So the fact that he still knows what we saw that day says a lot too.
Speaker 2:Right, exactly.
Speaker 1:He doesn't think that, he's not like oh, now I know what that was Right.
Speaker 2:Right or anything like that. Right, and I think he was. Oh, wasn't he like a weapons specialist for a while? So oh, I don't know, but he was.
Speaker 1:whatever his he was out in a UFO hotspot out in San Diego. You know the Nimitz incident happened and you know the videos at the Pentagon police. That's where all that stuff happened right, not the only place.
Speaker 2:They also did the Jets ones, not Jets but you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they did release some videos that were out on the east coast too, but the Nimitz was out by San Pedro Island, which is out by San Diego. What's in Nimitz? That's the one where they saw the thing coming in. Now the water David Fravor by San Pedro Island, which is out by San Diego. What's in Nimitz? That's the one where they saw the thing coming in and out of the water David.
Speaker 1:Fravor and the fighter jets went after it. They were chasing it and stuff. Very reliable If a fighter pilot tells me something. These are people like Blue Angel guys. These are the best pilots in the world flying the best machines in the world Right best machines in the world right and they take their jobs pretty fucking seriously. They tell me something was weird yeah, they don't know what it was and it was defying everything that they know about flight.
Speaker 2:These guys are like aerospace engineers and they like are sometimes even like hesitant to talk about it, because they don't want to be mistaken for right for sure, right, right.
Speaker 1:And it's like people are like oh, they do it for whatever, but like what? What do they? What do you really gain by that? A couple history channel interviews right like it's not like you're. I mean, maybe you get a book deal. What do you do? Right like it's not like you're making like it's not like.
Speaker 2:You're set for the rest of your life if you start telling this ufo story and it's kind of a pain in the ass because you got to deal with the naysayers. You get bothered by people on both sides right.
Speaker 1:The people that are like oh, I don't believe you.
Speaker 2:And then the people that like, take it too far right, you know what I mean, that like and allegedly you're putting your life at risk by even coming out, depending on who's monitoring the Speaking of UFOs, though, we have a very famous UFO incident that we've been to the spot where it happened, right near where we live.
Speaker 1:What's it take? About 45, 50 minutes, yeah it's close 45 minutes to get out there, yeah less than an hour to get out there, kecksburg, very famous ufo incident here in western pennsylvania. And basically back in 1965, the uh, these people saw a huge fireball, you know, fall out of the sky, basically, and then they went and tracked it down. There was this thing like glowing in the woods. It was like acorn shaped is what they said.
Speaker 2:And there's like a statue.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's like a statue of it out there, but every year they have a festival out there that's like a cryptid festival or something. It's just like a paranormal festival kind of, and you go inside and like it's fun. Yeah, it's like at the fire grounds and they have, like, all kinds of vendors selling paranormal books and stuff it's like a tiny baby.
Speaker 1:Rural comic-con for paranormal ufo paranormal well, you can't even say ufo because most of it but yeah, so the kecksburg incident very famous and then the government supposedly came in and shut it down and did all that. But that's right near here. We've been there Very cool. Go check out. There's multiple documentaries on it. There's Unsolved Mystery episodes. It's out there, kecksburg's very famous. It's like Pennsylvania's Roswell. Matter of fact, that might be what they call it.
Speaker 2:They do call it that. It's crazy, though, because I'm not into like aliens per se, like I know that I believe there are aliens. I just feel like we're ridiculous to think that we're the only sentient beings out there.
Speaker 1:Well, there's a lot of debate about what UFOs are.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Whether this is like beings from another, another dimension, whether this is beings from another planet. Is it us in the future?
Speaker 2:right. What is it? I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't have an opinion one way or the other, I don't know. Like, obviously I think there's ufos, like I don't think that every single one is credible, like story or whatever.
Speaker 1:But I do think that there's credible stories about things flying around that we have no idea what they are. And I do think there's credible stories about things flying around that we have no idea what they are. And I do think there's credible stories about like cryptids, like time jumping, like dimensional creatures or whatever you want to call it, and these stories have been told throughout time, like of you know what I mean, like humans have always told these stories.
Speaker 2:What was that Graham Hancock book that I read a long time ago.
Speaker 1:That was really good on um that was about how people see the same things during like iowak dmt trips.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all over the world people report the same things. These like machine worker elves, that like but they were also trying to connect them to aliens as well.
Speaker 1:Well, that's just it. Nobody really knows. You have this thing out there, so is it aliens, is it interdimensional beings, is it?
Speaker 2:Or are you just being flooded by DMT in your own body somehow in a moment? Or are all these?
Speaker 1:things inside of you, right, we have no idea, but that's what I'm saying. I don't have an opinion about it. I'm open to any of it.
Speaker 2:I don't study it enough, but I'm open-minded. I mean, we'll just put it that way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't have an opinion, although I don't care.
Speaker 2:So when we decided to do the podcast, I reached out to the Pennsylvania MUFON.
Speaker 1:MUF, pennsylvania, mufon, so that we could get our, I could go to Mufon tonight honey Mufaleta. Mufon sounds like a type of food.
Speaker 2:It does sound like a type of food.
Speaker 1:I could go for Mufon. It sounds like it's Asian. I could go for a Mufon bowl.
Speaker 2:I'm just associating it with Greek food Mufon bowl with noodles. I'm associating it with Greek food Mufon bowl. See, I'm just associating it with Greek food Mufon bowl with noodles. I'm associating it with Greek food Mufaletta See, I was associating it like what kind of noodles?
Speaker 1:Mufon noodles, Mufon chicken. Matter of fact that might be a thing. I don't know if it is May fun, is that's real close.
Speaker 2:Maybe that's what you're thinking of.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm just saying it's like one letter off. They probably got it.
Speaker 2:So, but when you're talking about aliens there's everybody has like the same similar kind of experience, right? Well, that's what I didn't get you is the stories that shows similarity, because then it lends credibility to it Right, exactly, but is it like that, not mass hysteria, but like, is it mass imprintation or whatever, where one story has become the normal?
Speaker 1:right.
Speaker 2:But they all seem to share one trait, which is that they don't have, they're devoid of emotion. And so at the end of the last show, I was talking about how I really believe that these things could be, assuming that we're programmed or that we're part of the sim. What if aliens are just humans, minus their emotional programming, like we talked about, you know, ghosts potentially being like just leftover code, right? Well, what if aliens are just another program of humans that they decided to strip emotion out to see, because emotion is the hardest thing to get programmed to the binary level?
Speaker 1:This is what a lot of people speculate is that the aliens are like the ones that are actually run the simulation and so sometimes they have to like hard, get into there and get like do whatever to try to like interfere with it. Right Grace Fartin too, by the way, it stinks.
Speaker 2:Grace Fartin.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Gee that chicken. That's why, or it might have been me.
Speaker 1:Um, oh, that aliens are us in the future and that they're also running a simulation of the past, because they're trying to get like the it's, it's like posited that something goes wrong in the future. Yeah, so they're trying to rerun the simulation so they can get back to some like genetic code to reset something, which is why they like abduct people and stuff, because they're trying to like harvest genetic code per se, because they're trying to get like back to a reset point for themselves as a species which is just us, but like it's all future.
Speaker 2:You know like that's why I got a combination of clairs crazy assigned to me right because they're trying to figure out which combination of clairs make the right human, make the right clair, because you can't have all the clairs. If you have all the clairs together, you're like. You're like you know from the right Claire, because you can't have all the Claires. If you have all the Claires together, you're like Thanos, you're like.
Speaker 1:Ro from the X-Men.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're like superhuman. Yeah, I don't want to be superhuman, I'm partially super, but so obviously we always talk about movies. I'm not into alien research per se, but I love alien movies.
Speaker 1:But yet you don't like the movie. Alien I don't, or Aliens, I don't.
Speaker 2:You don't like the series.
Speaker 1:I don't like this you claim to like alien movies, yet you don't like the one movie that's like titled after the word that you're talking about. It's being like I don't like scary movies, but I don't like the movie Scary Movie.
Speaker 2:Don't put words in my mouth, no.
Speaker 1:I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2:Don't start any rumors, please. No, I'm with you.
Speaker 1:Although I do like the alien movies. But I also love other alien movies too. But let's talk about the best alien movie, paul Paul.
Speaker 2:Hands down. Paul is the best alien movie god never made like I love that.
Speaker 1:It has everybody in it. It's so funny. Go watch it ah, it's just.
Speaker 2:It's the best. I love that movie. It's hilarious. Fucking kristen wigg is uh. All of them like the whole cast you can't even you can't even pick a favorite it's so good but my favorite are the men in black series as well men in black like I watched those over and over and over again. Et cocoon I loved cocoon movies. Fire in the sky.
Speaker 1:That's a scary that's scary shit, dude. When I saw that I was like fire in the sky was the first time that I heard of alien abduction.
Speaker 2:It was the first time I was actually ever terrified of aliens. As a kid I was like well fire in the sky.
Speaker 1:This guy got abducted by an alien, like what, like? This was new concept to me, so it was very scary. And, I'm pretty sure, aliens can take you Now I have another thing to be afraid of.
Speaker 2:I think. I mean it probably wasn't the first time that I ever saw a man cry on a movie, but it's the first time that I ever saw a man cry on a movie. But it's the first time that I ever saw a man cry in a movie and felt his pain like I was terrified for him the guy that plays travis walton, and then he also played in another great movie, the cutting edge as a figure skater.
Speaker 1:So corny, so corny, but I'm saying that guy was on his game in the early 90s, the cutting edge, and then fire in the sky. What?
Speaker 2:So let's. You cannot talk about all this without talking about the Mandela effect. See, I'm one of those people. I firmly believe that I knew he died before he died. See, I didn't.
Speaker 1:You even asked me, when you first heard of it, like the actual effect, like that it had a name you asked me about and you're like, do you remember? And I'm like, yeah, I remember him getting out of prison and do it because it was like a big deal. When I was in school we got out of prison and then everybody celebrated he won, like time emergence of the internet being something that you could have information at your fingertips.
Speaker 2:But if you weren't watching the news and you weren't on the internet, there's a good chance you missed it, which is why it may not have jumped out to you, right? So was I just busy with other things at that point?
Speaker 1:in my life that I wouldn't have but?
Speaker 2:but when I read the article I was like, yeah, I remember when he died in prison, right. So then I started reading some of the other cases. And the Berenstain bears just Berenstain. So that is very, very, very personal for me Very personal Because I remember. I remember Because when I was in fifth grade, right.
Speaker 1:I don't really even know. First off, let's talk about what the conspiracy is, because I don't even really know what the real answer is and what's supposedly the effect. So let's talk about that first. The Mandela effect theory on the berenstain bears is that it wasn't beren stain s-t-a-i-n.
Speaker 2:That's how it really is. That's how it is now it is b-e-r-e-n-s-t-a-i-n.
Speaker 1:Okay, see, that's how I think that I remember, but I can't be a hundred. But go ahead now share your story.
Speaker 2:Right. So the Mandela effect theory is that it was barren S T E I N like Stein or stain, right, steen. So when I was in fifth grade I used to go once a week or whatever and read to the kindergartners and I remember and I was like I was a spelling bee champion, I was a perfect reader. I was reading at like a third grade level when I was in kindergarten. Like so I, so my concept of language was very clear to me and I distinctly remember asking my teacher before she's like do you got the book? Are you ready to go? Did you practice? And I was like yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like I have one question Is this pronounced Berenstein or Berenstein? And I only would have asked that If it was E-I-N, if it was E-I-N.
Speaker 1:Now we also need to go back too, because I totally realize we also didn't even say exactly what the Mandela effect is for people that don't know.
Speaker 2:There might be people that don't know there might be, because there's a lot of people that. Well, if you haven't heard of it, you are prepare yourself to go down a rabbit hole.
Speaker 1:Right if you do look it up, but basically what it is is that a collective group of people remember something different than what is now accepted to be the general history of something right so like, for example, a group of people remember nelson mandela dying in prison, but history has that he did not. He got out later in the 90s. Yada y, yada, yada. Or, like she just said, with the Berenstain Bears. People remember it being Berenstein Bears. Well, even the but they remember it being spelled E-I-N instead of A-I-N.
Speaker 2:Right, that's exactly it. And there's other ones.
Speaker 1:There's ones where people remember Sinbad being in a movie where he was a genie.
Speaker 2:I remember that too.
Speaker 1:I remember that movie, it was called something or other, I don't remember. But there's a whole thing about that, but there I mean there's a hundred of these things Right. But these are some of the more popular ones. But you just had a personal experience with Berenstain Bears.
Speaker 2:Yeah, which now? It's like I feel like it was EIA now that you say that, like right, and their son, I think or daughter came out and like said no, it's always been staying right, it's just so weird, though it's very weird, but um, and we've run into numerous other ones like that well, so we do have one example, and and so the common thought behind the mandela effect is that you're shifting from one timeline to an alternate timeline.
Speaker 1:You're timeline jumping.
Speaker 2:Right, and so, if that is the case, we both experienced something of a I don't know if it was a timeline shift or a glitch in the matrix at the same time. Do you remember what happened that day when you were up in your office?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, so I was sitting there and I went. I threw something away. I don't remember what it was that I threw away. I threw something away into the trash can. I watched it land in the trash can, Like I saw it laying in the bin.
Speaker 2:Right and it was down in. It wasn't like the trash can, like I saw it laying in the bin right and it was down in.
Speaker 1:It wasn't like the trash was up to the brim, it was down below the room right and then, like I looked back like five seconds late or no, did I look at.
Speaker 1:I can't remember if I left the room and came back in or if I saw that and then left the room. And that's when you're like, something weird just happened to me. But either way, the next time I look back there, what I had just thrown away was laying on the ground, as if I now and I know that I didn't bounce out Like I tested all the scenarios, I pulled it out, tested if it would, could have possibly ricocheted out, or, but like I watched it late, it was laying in the trash can right and then I went over to your room and I was like something really weird just happened and at the exact same time that he was experiencing that I was getting something off of my closet shelf.
Speaker 2:And when I was getting, when I was pulling a purse down because I was switching out my purses, and when I pulled the purse down, one of the pieces of my shelving unit that was spare flew off the top shelf and landed on the floor and I wanted to remember to pick it up, but I was still fooling with the closet Right, so I took my foot and pushed it out away so that it would be so that I would remember, and I pushed it to the middle of the floor with my foot. I looked down a second later and it wasn't there at all at all and it was completely underneath the bottom shelf of the closet, like completely underneath. It's like I never even did that move to move it. It was crazy. So, and that happened to us at the same time.
Speaker 2:So we believe that there was a time jump, time, time skip, time skip yeah time skip, yeah, which is, you know, the glitch of the matrix, deja vu, it all kind of the butterfly effect. Oh, that's my. I love that movie so much but it's terrifying. But yeah, but that is it's.
Speaker 1:It ties right into that. Like jumping timelines, you know what I mean, like skipping right one little thing. It goes back to classic time travel scenario. Change one thing back to the future.
Speaker 2:Yes, I love it. It's like it gets all messed up. It all goes back to basic time travel theory so, um, let me see what else we got to talk about.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's about it yeah, I mean, and we even talked about how it all ties together, like at skinwalker ranch and places like that, and just even we talked about, like Western Pennsylvania being a hotspot for cryptid sightings, ufo sightings, I'm sure, if you dug into it, poltergeist activity, but like, because I think there are certain areas that are more charged up If these are interdimensional beings. The fact of the matter is we have no clue what's going on out there. The fact of the matter is we have no clue what's going on out there. Something's going on like the subatomic level, particle physics, the Big Bang theory, cryptids, cross-shaped jip-jumping through time. We don't know, but it's somehow all connected. But it's fun to look into.
Speaker 2:It is fun to look into. Do you have a quote for this week? Hold on.
Speaker 1:I'm going to do the quote. Gonna do the quote.
Speaker 2:Take my wife, please this quote is kind of weird because I I like, I don't feel like anybody is ever trying to take my man, and that's no disservice to you because I'm. This is no disservice to you at all, babe, I love you, but I think bitches see me and they back off. I don't know what it is. I don't think people are trying to get me. However, jolene knows, if she wants my man, she can take him. No, I'm joking, so I'll leave you guys with this quote from one Miss iconic, loretta Lynn. Loretta Lynn, you've been making your brags around town that you've been loving my man, but the man I love, when he picks up trash, he throws it in a garbage. Can what? Oh, my Lanta.
