Gilded Trash
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Gilded Trash
Do Yinz Remember Lil' Anth?
We commemorate the 15th anniversary of Anthony Ray Barlup II's passing by exploring the supernatural connections that followed his death.
• Anthony was a wild, adventurous teenager who loved ghost hunting with his family
• The complicated family dynamics that shaped Anthony's childhood and teenage years
• How taking mushrooms helped Alanna and Scott process their grief after Anthony's death
• The paranormal encounter at Miller's Church where they felt Anthony's presence in the backseat
• The extraordinary coincidence of a psychic medium named Anthony sensing Anthony's spirit
• The significance of emotional turmoil in making the veil between worlds thinner
• How Anthony's friends continue to honor his memory 15 years after his passing
If you've experienced the loss of a loved one, know that connections can persist beyond death, and healing comes in unexpected ways. Join us for upcoming comedy shows and paranormal investigations - check our website for details.
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Speaker 2:Do I look like I'm squinting?
Speaker 3:No, not to me squinky-talk man.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 3:Squinty-talk man.
Speaker 2:Do you love it?
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, I love that skonky talk. One time my lip almost when I was in school. One time I thought I was turning into elvis and I was getting that thing because uncontrollably in school one time my lip went I was just sitting there and it did that and I was like uh-oh. So, like your lip, I got the sugar and then your eyebrows started doing the rock.
Speaker 2:You were like all over the place.
Speaker 3:I can't do that today. See, it's gone. It was because you had a headache that day. It was something about the headache you had a nerve disorder. See, it's gone.
Speaker 2:It was because you had a headache that day. It was something about the headache you had a nerve disorder, I can't do it.
Speaker 3:That's how it was uncontrollable.
Speaker 1:I couldn't.
Speaker 2:Now you just look like Popeye. I can't do it. Oh my God, why do you just?
Speaker 3:look like Popeye. I can't do it. Oh my God yeah.
Speaker 2:I was just reading my book by L Ron Murphy, Goblin-tology. L Ron Murphy, get out of here.
Speaker 3:L Ron Murphy. I love that. That's way better. If I was him man, I'd skip. I'd just flip that around right there. Hi, nice to meet you, l.
Speaker 2:Ron Murphy. So, corny, what are we talking about this week?
Speaker 3:I have no idea. There was something I was just getting ready to ask you.
Speaker 2:Well, I will start off by saying that this is another fine T-shirt by Cryptology.
Speaker 3:I've already watched it. Cryptology, cryptology or something like that Cryptology, cryptology, there we go.
Speaker 2:I say it wrong every time, but I've watched this one like five, six times already and it's still great.
Speaker 3:I love it. Yeah, no, that's a great shirt. I love it. Skunk-a-tonk man, I can't stop it. It makes me want to watch wrestling. I saw the.
Speaker 2:Honky Tonk man live once I don't remember that one In Hagerstown Speedway.
Speaker 3:Honky Tonk man live once. I don't remember that one In Hagerstown Speedway, honky Tonk man. Actually, I saw Honky Tonk man live more than once. I saw him at Saturday Night Main Event down in I don't know like Capital Center it used to be. Now it's like whatever it is the Arena in DC. And then I saw Pap. It was one of my greatest childhood memories. Pap, dad and me went on a bus trip down there. Like there was very few things that I ever went outside like that I did with Pap like out in the world other than like grocery shopping or something. But it was that I did with pap like out in the world other than like grocery shopping or something. But um, it was uh. So what I remember most about that day, I mean, of course, other than the event well, first off, I had popcorn. I did remember that.
Speaker 2:Um, you know but did it have butter?
Speaker 3:I'm sure it probably did. I don't remember, but it wasn't a gripe that I had at the time, so, but what I remember most is prior to. So this is an. The event happens at like eight o'clock at night.
Speaker 3:So the bus trip, I'm just going to say, left at six in the evening, five in the evening, I don't know somewhere in that neighborhood, and it was like the middle of the afternoon, like two o'clock, and dad was like you need to take a nap. I mean I was a little, probably five, and dad was like you need to take them, maybe even younger, I don't know. Um, you need to take a nap because we're going to be. You know what I mean. We got a long night, you need to take a nap, and I remember we're going to be. You know what I mean. We got a long night, you need to take a nap. And I remember and I wasn't tired, obviously. So I remember trying to fake that I was sleeping, I put my hand up on the couch and I would let it slowly fall down, so that I was trying to trick Dad into thinking that I was actually sleeping.
Speaker 3:Do you think he was tricked? No, I don't think he was straight. If I remember, I got in trouble for not taking a nap and trying to stay up.
Speaker 2:That's right. So what did we do this past week or two? I mean, we've just been driving around a lot more.
Speaker 3:We've been all over the place. We've had all kinds of things going on between comedy, family events, just exploration.
Speaker 2:Explorination.
Speaker 3:Explorination, just doing a little of that. Yeah, we've been busy, though Very busy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean I didn't think that I had all that free time on my hands but I could still cram more in. If you ask me, I'm always looking to cram more in. But yeah, I mean we've been everywhere but I didn't—like. We're going to be doing a lot of really cool things coming up. We've been putting some reach I can't talk today research together in the background for, like, Becky's Graves, Miller's Church. So those things are coming up. We're going to be going down to Point Pleasant, West Virginia, in September for the Mothman Festival. Can't wait. That's the Mothman Festival, Can't wait.
Speaker 3:That's the Mothman gang sign.
Speaker 2:The gang sign okay. The.
Speaker 3:Mothman gang sign. You see somebody a fellow mother. You're wiggling your fingers too much. You need more of a wing movement.
Speaker 2:Oh see, you've been practicing that movement for a long time because you track American eagles or bald eagles, I don't know what the ones, what are the ones in our area?
Speaker 3:Bald eagles. Yeah, oh, bald, the American bald eagle. And yeah, I don't know, there's a couple other kinds of eagles, but I don't think we have any around here. Golden eagles, golden eagles. We got Philadelphia eagles.
Speaker 2:We were looking for eagles this past weekend.
Speaker 3:I love a good eagle. I love a good eagle. I mean it's always cool to see. It's still, I mean, I know we see more of them, but what's crazy is like so that's like a new experience in life because we talk about this. The bald eagle resurgence is one of America's great conservation stories because they were I mean, there was only what like 60 of them left or something.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and now they're just yeah, conwinga, they've got a whole group of them. They've got like what you would call a flock, whereas I like I don't know what the word is for a group of eagles like a murder of crows. I need to find that out. Squaggle eagles We've seen a whole squaggle of eagles down there.
Speaker 3:That sounds like a statement that's been said in maryland before, like north of baltimore, is it a clutch a clutch? No, I think that's turkeys. No, turkeys clutch a clutch is the second clutch, remember we saw it on that documentary. So a clutch of turkeys. If it's second clutch, it's already had one birth, given one round of, and it's then giving birth to a new. That's a new clutch. So it's on its second clutch eagles might clutch, they might clutch I don't know.
Speaker 2:Well, we're gonna find out so that you know. You'll know when I know. Yeah, but we go to a lot of dams so that's probably why we'll know when.
Speaker 3:I know, yeah, but we go to a lot of dams, so that's probably why we see a lot of eagles. We hang out by river, like we always see them like dams, rivers, stuff like that. Well, I don't know. In.
Speaker 2:Waynesboro they're hanging out in the creek. I mean that's true. Well, I mean I've seen one in Waynesboro, but the most I've ever seen were in Conawango and I don't see too many outside of that.
Speaker 3:I don't think We've seen them in random farm fields throughout Franklin County and stuff. We've seen them up here. We saw one right by our house flying over this dusty-ass river. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Release the damn waters oh, they can't release the damn river. You know what I mean Release the dam waters oh, they can't release the dam waters. I was doing all kinds of research on this.
Speaker 3:I know you were.
Speaker 2:Apparently, lightning fried a valve Like lightning fried the clock tower. We need to turn back time on the whatever. That dam is further up north from the Stony Creek. I mean, actually it's south of Stony Creek, isn't it?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean actually it's south of Stony.
Speaker 2:Creek isn't it?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I guess it is, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't look it good.
Speaker 2:I forget who owns it now, but back in the day the steel mill used to own it and so it was like a family picnic place for the steel mill workers and then, like in high school, we rented it out after band camp to do like our annual band picnic before school started or whatever. It was fun. It's nice. They have a nice community swimming pool out there and water activities like outside of the swimming pool they have like break. Yeah, it's nice, it's really nice, well, it was back in the day um.
Speaker 2:It is out by Somerset Lake. Hmm, I can't remember what it's called.
Speaker 3:My only experience with water in Somerset County is that time we got busted for fishing without licenses Not me, but that was at Queen Mahoney though.
Speaker 2:Gotta watch for the man. The man was watching for you that day. He was watching for you guys that day from a tree with binoculars. He took his job seriously. It's not as bad as the drive-in police. It's not a dip.
Speaker 3:No, First off that's that guy.
Speaker 2:I don't want to talk too much shit because they're necessary. They're necessary.
Speaker 3:But some of them go on little power trips just like anybody with authority. It's like some cops. You know what I mean, as my grandma used to like to call them little tinned Hitlers. You give them an ounce of power and they think that they're taking over the world. And hit them, but yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah're sucking it out. But yeah, yeah watch out for them. So, and coming up, we've got again. I feel like we say it all the time We've got comedy coming up, we're going to be traveling again. You've got so many things coming up comedy-wise, it's like all over the spectrum as far as where. Who you're with that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3:Right, it's all over the place. Just go check out the website. Go see it, because we got so much it's too much to talk about. I don't want to bore you with the details of who I'm performing, with where I'm performing. I'm out there doing comedy people, go see it.
Speaker 2:Get with where I'm performing. I'm out there doing comedy. People Go see it, Get out there and check it out.
Speaker 3:I'm getting better. I am getting better.
Speaker 2:Oh, I thought you said you were kidding. You are getting better, you're much better.
Speaker 3:No, I'm saying, I'm getting better, I'm getting there. I'm getting there.
Speaker 2:That was a fun thing that we did at the speakeasy at Gamble Mills, oh my God.
Speaker 3:Thing that we did at the um speakeasy at gamble mills, oh my god yeah, I just want to talk about that for a minute because, first off, I want to do every show there because it's like, first off, you know I talk about this all the time, and so here's the elements that it has and make this a great venue for something like this. I'd watch a band there too. That's real cool. It's just a great little room, and so they have. What makes it great is I say this all the time people want to be comfortable. The more comfortable people are when they're watching comedy, the more likely they are to laugh. People that are. I can't move my shoulders.
Speaker 3:The guy's got a sword on my arm when you're packed in like sardines, like that you're less like I know that I am.
Speaker 3:I feel that way, like it's harder for me to laugh going to see like Nate Bargetzi, because you're always like in an arena. It's always like that's hard, unless I'm like on the floor in a comfortable like. Then I'm laughing, but when I'm uncomfortable it's like I just want the show to be over. Same thing for music. It's like I love Tyler Childers and I love that show. We saw Bridgestone, but like never again. Like it was insufferable.
Speaker 3:And it's like Sally wants to go out. She's chirping. I was like I wasn't like in normal. I told her to come up, but I didn't you're a jerk.
Speaker 2:Is Kyle in the camera right now? No you didn't see it outside? My brain just started automatically singing Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. A storm is coming. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 3:Is it Is the wind coming.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, it's dark out there. It looks ominous.
Speaker 3:I didn't think we had any rain in the forecast, but then again we know how that can be.
Speaker 2:It's like up over east hills, like it's really dark over there um, but yeah, like back to the tight arenas.
Speaker 3:People be wanting to be comfortable in a comedy show. If the the shows that I've seen where it's the most successful in terms of like everyone laughing, it's where they're most comfortable.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 3:I'm not saying it's got to be the lapse of luxury Right. You just can't be like uncomfortable close sitting to people. You know like it's got to be an easy setup. And it's an easy setup there Couches, chairs, loungers, people standing and it's like the room is small so the laughter really hits and it's very intimate venue. It's almost like it's like MTV Unplugged for comedians or something.
Speaker 2:That's exactly what it put me in the mind of was on the Marvelous Mrs Maisel, when her and that guy were like riffing at a party and then, everybody was at the party with just sitting around with drinks in their hands, like into the moment.
Speaker 2:That's what it felt like. It just felt like you were at a party, chilling and all of a sudden you got up there to talk for a little bit. It was cool when they were trying to be second rate Nichols and May. Well, that is exactly what I envision when I try to get you to go out for parties. That's the vibe I'm going for, like people all just stopping sitting around gathering to listen to the Pied Piper.
Speaker 2:Right, no, I get that At a party is a little weird but because we, because of going to the speakeasy and I'm obsessed with the vibe of speakeasies, because anyone that I've ever been to that is like that all has a really great ambience in the room and they're all slightly different right they all have low lighting yeah, but it was still warm.
Speaker 3:It was fake fireplace soft lights.
Speaker 2:But do you remember what I learned today?
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:That the term speakeasy, while it was originally spoken over in England before 1889-ish they used to call bars, speak softly, shop. Over in England before 1889-ish they used to call bars, speak softly, shops or pubs. I guess over there speak softly shops.
Speaker 3:What was the reasoning behind that? Speak softly shop. What's that mean?
Speaker 2:I didn't dig into that piece of it, but if I'm putting brain connections together, my brain understood it innately to mean that you're talking about the things there that you would have to speak quietly about in public.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, sure, and.
Speaker 2:I could be totally off base, but that's how my brain did it.
Speaker 3:I mean it doesn't matter, I was just curious what they meant by that.
Speaker 2:Like you know, the Brits have weird talk first place that anyone had heard it in the States. They were referring to an unlicensed saloon at the time as a speakeasy. And then I forget her name, but I'll pop it up here on the screen the woman that one of the women who owned a saloon in McKeesport actually was famously heard or lore, we don't know as saying speak easy boys, speak easy boys because they were rowdy in the bar or whatever. So that was before prohibition. The Pittsburgh Papers latched onto it then and they started calling all unlicensed saloons speakeasies. So it was kind of a movement before prohibition even started.
Speaker 3:Well, that was my question was was this prior to prohibition? You know what I mean, Because that's when we think of speakeasies, I mean that's when the term takes off, that's when it goes viral. You know what I mean. Like it goes viral during prohibition, Everybody you know like wants to use it. But no, it's just that's super fascinating. No, but it's great that. It's cool too that it has like Western Pennsylvania roots. That's fun. Yeah, that's really fun Some lady out there on the south side.
Speaker 2:Just speak easy, boys, speak easy, boys, speak easy. I can't even do it because in my name it's not so the woman's name, and again I'll pop it up on the screen. But the woman, she was actually in my brain. She was German, so she had a very thick accent when she was yelling at the women.
Speaker 3:She may have, and at that time, at that time in western Pennsylvania, she likely probably had an accent. You know what I mean, like they didn't have a Pittsburgh accent, yet it probably had an accent, you know what.
Speaker 2:I mean they didn't have a Pittsburgh accent yet that took them many more years.
Speaker 3:It wasn't quite developed.
Speaker 2:It wasn't quite developed.
Speaker 3:They had to go down there and work on it a little bit.
Speaker 2:That's hilarious. So this week's episode I'm going to get into it. I know we've been spending the last 20 minutes pretending like we weren't going to talk about it, but this week's episode is actually a memorial for when Anthony Ray Barlip II, not Junior the second. So September 19th of this year is the 15th anniversary of my son's passing and we've talked about it before. We're going to talk about it a little bit here. But what I really want to weave into this tale and we'll retell Lilydale is just all of the supernatural things Like this is always we've talked about. We talked about it last Halloween time, like leading up into Halloween. Paranormal is very much a part of, or ingrained in, americana, ingrained in folklore, and we grew up with it right.
Speaker 3:We were doing Explore Nation, before we ever even dreamed of even calling it a thing. We just did that. That's what we did. So this is we want to tie in some of those stories that we experienced with him, stuff that we look back on and connections to that and so forth, because it all ties together, then, with what we already talk about, which is a lot of paranormal, a lot of goofing around and crazy stories.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I'm just going to give the shortest backstory I can even give on this, which is there's a couple bullet points that really hit on. Again. It's very thematic. There's the element of psychology involved, right.
Speaker 2:So I met Ant's dad when I was just turned 18. He was 19. So we were close in age and we just had a teenage fling. It was a teenage romance fling. I didn't find out until I was getting ready to leave for college that he was suicidal as a person, right, and that he had bipolar and manic depression. So I was leaving for college and I was trying to break up with him and he attempted to commit suicide and that was a trend later in life. So I try not to tell that story for a lot of reasons. One is that I'm very close with his family still and I never want to paint him in a bad light.
Speaker 2:Anybody who knew Anthony Sr Anthony, I Big Ant I forget what his nickname was in high school, anybody that knew him knew he was just a light. He was always up, he was always on. He was in high school. Anybody that knew him knew he was just a light. He was always like up, he was always on. He was always cracking jokes. Everybody wanted to hang out with him, but when he was down, he was down. His lows were manic and people you know were afraid of him sometimes when he was low.
Speaker 3:A lot of people that are like that, a lot of people like that. I mean that's literally classic bipolar. I mean that's literally classic bipolar. I mean your highs are high and your lows are crazy low.
Speaker 2:So I mean, yes, yes, that's exactly it, and I didn't know at the time or understand I guess at 18 that I was also bipolar and so, unfortunately, the two bipolars having a baby together was probably a toxic move looking back. But, that being said, he was a great father. I mean, he was such a great father, he was so hands-on. We did have split custody, so he would have him four days and I would have him seven, then he would have him seven.
Speaker 3:So it was a rolling, weird, cussy arrangement Most situations like that are going to be weird, I mean because at that age I mean you're just all over the place.
Speaker 2:Right, and when the cussy arrangement went into place he wasn't in school yet. So but the only reason I'm bringing this up at all is because I've said I was going to talk about this for since my son was four years old. There's still a lot of drama around it. I'm still going to figure out a way to memorialize it forever into a book or a TV show or a movie. But I'm the road to hell is paved with good intent, right.
Speaker 2:And the Ford family the Ford family, who I forever speak with disdain on my tongue they wanted my son to be theirs. They wanted him to be their son, to be theirs. They wanted him to be their son, and so they took over his life after his father finally did end up committing suicide in 1998. They had money, they had very well-established roots in the community, and I'm not saying any of this to knock how irresponsible I was as a young adult. I was fucking irresponsible. I was making really bad decisions as a young teenage mom. But at the end of the day they were grown-ass adults with money and alleged Christians, and they should have not done that to our family, because I think that part of the reason why my son did pass away is because they tried so hard to covet him that they broke his spirit one. They made him wild out and they took away his identity. He lost both of his parents in the same year because they iced me out.
Speaker 3:And then they tried to raise him as if nothing happened.
Speaker 2:As if this was all just normal, that two 40-something people were just okay to take somebody's son after he committed suicide because of their daughter. And then I'm just going to throw this out there too, because while I'm throwing allegations out, and potentially out there too, because while I'm throwing allegations out and potentially getting myself in legal trouble the reason why they even wanted my son to begin with is because they allegedly made their daughter have an abortion. The baby would have also been Big Anthony's and she was only 16 at the time and I was also pregnant with my son at the time. So, rather than letting her have her baby and dealing with the dynamics of having two kids, they made her have an abortion and take my son. So I mean, I'm not going to say I didn't have any hand in that, because I signed custody of him Right, no, no, no, I get it.
Speaker 3:But yeah, right, but anyway, I think let's get out of that messiness and get to where the story goes from that point then.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so, but again, that needed to disbarred who they sent to break into my apartment and take pictures, which did indeed happen. That's not allegedly that happened. So in that case, they were really dirty and dirty, dirty money. Like people with money. And good intentions still do dirty shit. That's all I'm going to say on that. And good intentions still do dirty shit. That's all I'm going to say on that, right, I agree.
Speaker 2:So then, when my son was 12, I actually got in touch with him on Facebook and we started talking and connecting and I was able to get custody of him. Long story short, he did not want to be with those people and he wanted to know and understand his family and be with his family and all of his family is pretty fucking awesome anyway. So he came back with us and by that point, he was a wild, wild, wild teenager, right, and you and I had just started dating, maybe a year into me having custody of him. So it was, it was. It was crazy, um, but so that's setting up the scene that we have at this time. When Scott and I first started dating, my son was about 14. Um, so he had a pack of friends that came with him. They were all very different. He had skater friends.
Speaker 3:Well, first off, just back up, just a hair there, because when we first got together, he when did he wait? That was when was he at the place where we had to go visit him? That was later, wasn't it?
Speaker 2:He was placed more than once?
Speaker 3:No, but when we know I understand that, but when you and I were together and we had to go visit him in chambersburg remember that was shortly right after we got together- yeah and then he came like back down to yeah, then he was able.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was in a behavioral Christian home type place, a group home setting, for a minute, just again. Because he came away from those two people with so many behavioral issues that he didn't that he had when he was born. I know he did and they just did not want to. I think they just never handled it the way that they should have and so his behavioral issues were mostly in retaliation of not being able to have his real family and then once he got around his real family he was already like kind of over.
Speaker 3:Well, he was totally like he didn't have any regards for authority, discipline, structure and he truly did not care. And like most kids, you can sort of like, like whatever, trick them, bully them into the like.
Speaker 2:No, he was smart, he did not care. He puts me. He used to when he got argumentative with me and he would be like no, no, I'm not doing that. No, that was my brother, through and through and through. He argued like my brother does Right, like Bubba was right.
Speaker 3:He kind of looks a little bit like Tim, now that you say that. Yeah, yeah, right he kind of looks a little bit like Tim, now that you say that yeah, yeah, I can see that he got his hardiness.
Speaker 2:we'll say from my dad's side of the family, so he has the stature of a skeebo. He has the build of a skeebo. Now he has the height of both families, because my mom's family, my dad's family and his dad's family are all very tall, except for me and his dad. So that was kind of funny too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we are both the products of. I have plenty of tall family, but my dad is as sure, both his over six feet tall. My dad, he's like my mom, now she's not, her family's not tall, but they're taller than she is. She's borderline midget. So you get them two little people and what the result is is sure as they'll be fed out of here. But yeah, no, he had that the good stature from your family, so luckily enough, that worked out.
Speaker 2:Well, all three of my kids are very well. Unfortunately they're all big boned. So the girls they need to watch their weight, just like I do, but they're, we're just big people. Like obviously, like I said, said I'm the, I'm the shortest and I'm five, five. But um, both the girls are five, nine or taller. Anth was close to six foot or taller. I like I couldn't even tell. They're all just big. I raise big things. I raise big. Everything I raise is big. My animals all get big and fat. My kids get big.
Speaker 3:That ain't true. None of our cats are fat.
Speaker 2:No, it used to be a thing.
Speaker 1:It's surprising.
Speaker 2:When I had goldfish, guinea pigs and hamsters, that was the truth, but now that I have cats, it's not.
Speaker 3:Which is so bizarre because almost everyone I know that has cats they're fat. Everyone I know that has cats, they're fat and yet somehow everything else that we hit like it's like, but the cats they're healthiest can be. I don't know, I can't explain.
Speaker 2:They're healthy. They're just not bloat up.
Speaker 3:No, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:They're not fat at all but his personality though. So getting away from the behavioral issues, but the behavioral issues kind of made him who he was and it was funny and endearing Like it was embarrassing at times because he would walk around, and now I do have to practice this.
Speaker 3:In hindsight it's funny and endearing, but at the moment you're experiencing it, you're like shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2:Shut up. So, mind you, half of his friends were either black or Mexican or mixed race and they would walk around town doing Dave Chappelle what I can't even do the voice All of them would. It was fucking hilarious, but it scared the shit out of people.
Speaker 3:They would call each other racial slurs. They were wild.
Speaker 2:They were wild. If you've seen this pack of kids in the street, you definitely crossed the street.
Speaker 3:A hundred percent. If you've seen these kids, you're like how can I get as far away as possible from this pack of heathens?
Speaker 2:It's coming my way because something's going to transpire Like I remember one morning I opened up Facebook and there was, like I saw a video of him. Uh, it was at a bonfire and he was I can't remember if he was just using the spray, but he was like blowing up a bonfire with spray to like make it shoot up, and stuff like that they were always doing. Like dangerous shit, like dangerous shit. He stole his grandmother's car and wrecked it in the middle of a cornfield one night before he had his license of a cornfield one night before he had his license and the reason that we tell you all this.
Speaker 3:and then, unfortunately, I mean we do have to mention it Like, I mean, this is all. We already, you know, talked about it, but then, once he passed away, there's some things that happen afterwards that also like paranormal and stuff related, that like come back into play with some of these stories, which is why we're giving you so much background on this. That's what like we're not just.
Speaker 2:This is all essential for these stories it is the central part, but this is also his memorial episode and I want people to know who he was.
Speaker 3:He wasn't just some, oh, absolutely oh, I mean, that's the beauty of it. Well, that's what I think that these stories highlight too is his goofiness.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean he was just like. Everybody loved him. I mean I'm going to say that my son was handsome because he was my son. He was a good looking kid. Was he the most handsome kid I've ever seen? No, but all the girls loved him and it surprised me yeah, because of his personality.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Like he got some hot girlfriends.
Speaker 2:That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3:He was bad. He was a bad boy. I don't like to say it like that because that sounds weird, but he was a bad boy. So, of course, the girls liked him. He was disruptive. He was that guy that like in the movies, that like he, just he's like smoking cigarettes in school and they're like, who's that? That's just Jeff. It's like you know what I mean, though, like he, that's the person that he was was that absolute rebel, but then the girl's always like, oh, that shouldn't, but that's what it was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, it was insane. And they, oh my gosh, one time him and he talked his sister into doing quercetans with him, as they referred to it, triple Cs.
Speaker 3:I don't even want to, oh God.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we thought Olivia was going to die, like they had to charcoal her stomach. Meanwhile he's standing up in the hospital high as fuck in her face like Sister, why did you take that many? What are you doing Like? He was like weaving and bobbing, but he was totally fine. He did not even get. But I mean again, I'm sure he had tried substances or whatever before. Oh my God. But he did everything too. He was the every person's guy.
Speaker 1:He was a hunter.
Speaker 2:He loved to hunt and fish. He loved to do ATVs. He loved to skateboard, but he was fucking horrible at it. He played baseball when he was little.
Speaker 3:He just wanted to experience everything. Like whether all the different things that you can do. He wanted to do them all and he tried them all. He wouldn't stick to any of them, but he would try them all. Yeah, he was an experiencer. He was one of those people.
Speaker 2:Like if he had grown up.
Speaker 3:He would have been on the— what's that?
Speaker 2:He got it honest.
Speaker 3:I mean sure, yeah, but you're at a much more reserved level. He's the type of person that would have been on the show jackass, because he would just be up for anything. Like he didn't care, like I don't put you out there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, his dad would have been jackass, I would have been more adventurous, more adventurous yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3:You're wild, but you're a little more tepid in your when it gets to the dangerous things.
Speaker 2:Well, now at 50, of course, but maybe not at 24, 25. Right.
Speaker 3:I know, but I mean yeah.
Speaker 2:To your earlier point. That really leads into the reason why we had to keep his brain occupied at 11 o'clock at night, 12 o'clock at night, one o'clock in the morning because he was up, he was a teenager, he wanted to be doing things and we wanted to accommodate that as much as possible without letting him run the streets wild at 1 o'clock in the morning. So every once in a while we'd drag our asses out of bed and be like all right, let's go have some fun. What do you guys want to do, and what did they always want to do? Ghost?
Speaker 3:hunting, ghost hunting. What else? Ghost hunting? Let's go to Miller's Church, let's go to Pond Bank, let's go to wherever All the usual haunts.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:But you know what I mean. They heard the stories and they wanted to go check them out. And what do you do when you're a teenager? You're curious about that stuff, so you want to go check it out and we did indulge them on that aspect of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we did it like several times, like one time, and the reason why I say 12-1, 11-12-1 is because oftentimes he would just call us late and we'd already be up or we'd be leaving like we were out at karaoke or something. We'd be leaving karaoke and we'd be like, all right, we'll come get you. But one time he actually did get us out of bed. It'd be like come on, my friends want to go, and so we got out of bed and went. I mean it was just whatever. I mean we didn't mind it. I'm making it sound like those typical white people that give in to everything, really people that you can call on the phone and it's the wrong number and we'll come get you. No, we're not.
Speaker 3:We're really not. We're figuring this thing out together.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's not happening, but so that leads into. So the night that he passed away it was football season and we, I guess the local channels. This always happens to us, no matter where we live in Pennsylvania. Unless you live right in Pittsburgh, the local channels don't carry all the games. So at Waynesboro there were certain games where we would have to go out to somewhere else to watch the games.
Speaker 3:There's always one or two a year. There's always one or two a year that you couldn't pick up without the NFL package or whatever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so we had gone out to what's it called Breakaway 2s.
Speaker 3:No, just regular Breakaways.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's regular Breakaways, breakaway 2s in Hagerstown. So we went to breakaways to grab lunch or whatever and watch the game and have a beer or two. We had just had a birthday party for Dakota the day before, so the kids had all kinds of leftover food at the house. They were all chilling there and I knew that Amp was with his friends. So I was like let me just give him a call and see if he wants to come eat with us before he goes and gets into whatever he was getting into that night.
Speaker 2:Now, during this time he was staying with his grandmother at his great-grandparents' house, so I don't think we told that the last part of the story. So even though me and his grandmother had custody of him at the time since we didn't live at the same house any longer because Scott and I had moved in together she kept custody of Anthony for school reasons and all that at her house. So I called him and I was like hey. I was like do you want to come out and have dinner with us? We're at breakaways, you know. We'll order you food or whatever before you go. Do whatever you're doing for the night. We're watching the game. And he said I would like to, but I promised my girlfriend that I would take her out to. They were supposed to go to Applebee's that night. I do not know what happened there, but he was supposed to take his girlfriend to Applebee's and he was like so happen there, but he was supposed to take his girlfriend to.
Speaker 3:Applebee's and he was like so unless it was, I mean it could have been just a fib, but Right.
Speaker 2:I mean that's certainly possible, but it doesn't matter, that's irrelevant. Yeah, it's irrelevant to the story and he was also very honest with us normally, but either way, it wasn't like I there was. No, I remember feeling like, okay, maybe he's being a normal teenager, Like this is good, Like I had a good feeling about that part of it. So then I think— I think I did get one text after that and I'll have to go back and look because I feel like somebody texted me and said there was about to be drama at our house. Do you remember that Somebody was supposed to be up sitting behind the garage when we lived on Price Avenue?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I do kind of remember that happening, but I don't remember that being that same day.
Speaker 2:But it might have been I don't know. Or it had just happened before that, or something like that. But there was some drama with him and the kids like Bobby and them, it was nothing serious.
Speaker 3:Right, and if you remember, though, his friends came over to the house.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Before, like after the game, when we got home, when he was remember, it was three of them. I couldn't tell you who. Tony, tony.
Speaker 2:Well, tony was there. Was it BK maybe?
Speaker 3:I have no idea. I just remember Tony. I thought Bobby was there too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it might have been. I thought it was.
Speaker 3:Bobby, Tony, yeah.
Speaker 2:A couple of the kids had stopped by the house because, again, the girls well, not dakota, because she was probably in a room, but, um, olivia was out back. They were like finishing off the birthday cake from the day before they. A couple of the kids were hanging out in the backyard just chilling. That's what I. A couple of them were teenagers. So we had gotten a quarter of mushrooms from a friend of a friend at the bar, which we were going to save for the following weekend, but I didn't know the person who we got them off of. So I wanted to take a nibble to see if they were any good, or I just wanted to get high. I don't remember, but I knew that we didn't want to do enough to get dosed because we had to go to work the next morning, right, but we just wanted to try it.
Speaker 2:So I don't think that I told this part of the story last time either, but if you remember it was, you had run upstairs. So we got high, we took the nibble, or we took the nibble and I turned on something on the TV to watch that we were going to try to watch. It might've been Fear and Loathing, I don't remember. We always try different shit and you ran upstairs and I even remember calling up to you hey, can you bring my inhaler down? I can't breathe, right. I was like my chest was heavy and I couldn't breathe, and it was around eight something whenever that happened, which plays in later, right. So I hit my inhaler and sometimes, when I can't breathe, it's asthma. Sometimes it's a panic attack and I never know which one. So I just hit the inhaler, right. So, um, we were tripping a little bit, not too much, just enough, right, like how I don't know what you would say oh no, we were, we were tripping.
Speaker 3:I mean, it was like, but was it just a light happy buzz? Oh no, we were tripping.
Speaker 2:I mean it was like, but was it just a light happy buzz? Yeah, it was that like if you microdose on like a chocolate bar or something like that, those like it.
Speaker 3:You were happy, you definitely felt it, but you weren't like crazy.
Speaker 2:Right, there was no, like it wasn't a full deep on, like it wasn't like REM sleep, but it was like the stage before that or whatever. So, or I don't know the stages, I just probably messed up that whole analogy, but you get what I'm saying. So when we went upstairs to go to bed, I don't know why I was thinking about this, that's what, because I don't remember any drama. I think I was just kind of sad that ants didn't come out with us, maybe because I wanted to spend time with them. But when we were laying there, the things that jumped out to me were again, you were rubbing my back, so my back was to you, you were rubbing my back, and I remember distinctly, remember thinking to myself that your hands felt really really big, like bigger than they should have been, and I just attributed that to being high. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Like I just thought, oh yeah, sure yeah yeah. I mean, it's just one of those weird things.
Speaker 2:And then the other piece of that was that, as I was like slowly, like starting to drift away into sleep, I consciously like I remember consciously talking to Big Anthony, who at the time was already, you know, deceased and I said to him I was like, what are we going to do with our boy? He needs some behavioral things, like. It was something like something about how are we going to handle this, what are we going to do with this boy of ours? And I said it Go ahead.
Speaker 3:I was going to say I also don't know if you remember, but we had just recently been out at his grave and you basically had the same conversation, because I don't know if you remember is like you know what I mean, like that was just a couple weeks prior to that.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you remember that I mean that tracks, but I don't remember.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we did Only the highlight reels remain from those years, but that was exactly what you were talking about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so, while I was drifting, I could feel like a touch on my foot, like somebody had grabbed my foot, and in my mind I woke up. But I know, I didn't Like. No, I know, and I could see Anth, and it wasn't like the. It wasn't Big Anth from a picture, it wasn't Big Anth from his funeral.
Speaker 2:It was Big Anth in an outfit that I had only seen him in like once or twice. It was like the heavy cargo shorts that are all floppy, just like the ones that you just finally got rid of, so the cargo shorts with all the pockets already poofed out because he'd been wearing them a hundred times. They were sagging. I could see his boxer shorts. I could see the t-shirt that he was wearing. His hair was longer, like when he was younger, so it wasn't like the hair that he had when he died and he was like rubbing my foot and he was like don't worry, mama, I got this and mama was what he called me, right? So then, like it could have been 10 minutes, it could have been a half hour, I don't even know what it was.
Speaker 3:Sure yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, we got a phone call and we know what that was. Did I say out loud to you that your hands felt big to me, or did I say that out loud I?
Speaker 3:think after the fact I mean now that raises an interesting point. I think you did say it at the time, but I don't think you made any kind of connection with any sort of thing. To myself, like you, didn't think anything weird was going on. You were just like your hands feel giant or whatever. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Giant when I'm sad.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, whatever.
Speaker 2:Like it wasn't some like moment where we're like whoa, you know, it was just in passing your hands, feel, because then we talked about it later, of course, but at that time yeah, and so then of course, like we went up and we found out that he died and I'm not going to go through that whole piece because that whole probably week for me is a lost memory and I don't know if anybody can actually recall those moments of something like that. My body has been in fight or flight mode since I was probably 18 months old, so I block things out as soon as I process them in all of those types of situations. So I don't. All I know is that there was no like from me. If anybody holds any like, sadness or guilt because they were not there or because they didn't say or do the right things, I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 3:I couldn't tell you, nobody would ever know.
Speaker 2:There are people inside the guest book that I don't fucking know who they are. I'll never know who they are. There's people I don't. People were like don't you remember? I said no, I don't.
Speaker 3:So I mean, there was a thousand people there yeah, literally so I mean there's no way. Like I mean just at the funeral I'm saying, but like it, like, like you said, everything's just a blow because I like and even I don't really remember, you know. I mean I remember little bits and pieces of like specific stuff, like I you know how I remember stupid stuff, but like as far as like the overall progression of the week or anything, I don't remember any of that.
Speaker 2:None of it, and so, yeah, like during that time, yeah, like during that time. So one of the things that I kind of feel bad about is that I didn't let some more of the kids in my heart Not in the house, right, right, right right?
Speaker 3:No, they were definitely at our house, whether we want them to be or not. Hold on, that's okay, babe.
Speaker 2:Well, because we found out yesterday that another one of the kids that are in that group died, and we don't know all the details yet, so I'm not going to say anything about it, other than to say that she was part of that crew. And that we've buried way too many of these kids Way too many.
Speaker 3:I mean an ungodly amount from that group of kids.
Speaker 2:To the point where I'm researching the statistics right now to see if it's too high, because I've never like I don't remember that many kids that I went to high school dying with within the 10 years of graduation.
Speaker 3:No, no, I don't either, and I think I mean, but here's also like, like for all those ones where it didn't happen a lot, there's going to be ones where it did. You know what I mean. Like so, and this just happens to be one of those groups, and I mean it's a combination of things. I mean a lot of it was drugs for some of these kids.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean, not all, I mean the one yesterday wasn't.
Speaker 3:But yeah, no, no, I'm not saying that, but I'm saying some of the prior ones before that had to do with drugs. So, and that's more prevalent now than it was, you know, back in the day. So that certainly is part of it. But even taking that out of the equation there's an ungodly amount because, like you said, the one yesterday there, I mean there's just been a, there's been a bunch that had been very, very not suspicious.
Speaker 2:But it's just, there's just been a bunch that have been very, very not suspicious, but it's just it's weird that this has happened and so and I think, probably part of the story too I mean, some of the listeners probably already know this, but I'm not from that town, I'm not from Waynesboro, I'm from Johnstown, right? So when I got to Waynesboro, I was like I said I was, I had just literally turned 18, like the week that I got there and I met a lot of people, a lot of good people. So, even though I didn't go to high school there, like I'm friends with most of these kids' parents, I know them right you got there when you were still a kid basically.
Speaker 3:I mean, you were an adult technically, but you were a teenager. You still got to know the quote-unquote kids that are these people's children now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and obviously I mean I didn't marry into the family, but his family, the Barlops, adopted me in. I did. They adopted you. You married into the Barlops essentially. And they, I mean, but they are connected to the entire town in some way, shape or form. So like I walked into a family that was highly like connected with the community, into a family that was highly like connected with the community. So I mean, and obviously I'm still close to a lot of people to this day through that one connection of Big Ant.
Speaker 3:I mean Absolutely, I mean they are our family.
Speaker 1:They are our family. Yeah, shout out to Danny coming out for my birthday.
Speaker 2:right Like he came up, that was Big Ant's absolute hands down best friend of all time number. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:So and it speaks volumes to me too, and I think to other people too the way that they've embraced me. You know what I mean. Like they treat me as if you're their daughter and I'm married to you. You know what I mean. Like I'm part of their family, like and I'm married to. You know what I mean. Like I'm part of their family like as as much as the any other family.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, well, and they recognize too that, like I mean, you can never go back, obviously, but had Big Ants lived and we had not, and we had stayed apart, which there's a high likelihood that Big Ants and I would have never gotten back together but we would have remained very good friends Sure.
Speaker 3:You guys would have been friends, right, I have no doubt. Right, I can certainly see that playing out like that. You guys would have been cool. It would have been the same, just he'd be at the barlip stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then I could have found him a much better girlfriend than the shit ass when he had back then, but whatever, um. So then, um, we've talked about this several times, so I don't want to say the whole story because we're already in an hour, and I want to actually talk about some of the paranormal shit that happened. So after his funeral, we did take mushrooms to heal, I mean.
Speaker 3:As a healing process For those and I mean those very familiar. This is why they're being investigated in the United States and legalized in some states, because their medicinal properties, especially for psychotherapy, are unreal in terms of the results that they see, and I mean we're a living testament to that. That was like sort of what helped us get everything home. Now we did eat quite a bit more that second go round and it was a spiritual experience. We were standing in the dining room laughing for a minute and then we're just like holding each other, crying for 30 seconds, laughing for 30 seconds, crying for 30 seconds, laughing for 30. Like it was intense, like it was very intense, but it was very healing and we both felt very, very good after it. I know that helped both of us. I mean you had more to go through than me, but it still it definitely I mean it. It sort of helped clear the air, I guess.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it cleared a lot of the negative space that I'd been holding on to for being a shitty mom, for not being able to like handle his behavior, for not being at a place Like I'm at a much better listening place now as an adult than I was trying to manage three well, two wild teenagers in Dakota, because she was never wild, she was just there right. So for me. So yeah, I mean it cleared some history with the. It cleared a lot of shit for me, like there was a lot of healing and me and his uncle, even tim, we healed after that because he was there when big yams shot him not there, he showed up right, right, right and found big enough.
Speaker 2:Right, so there was. There has been so much trauma bonding with that family that like I'll always have that connection with them. But we have the fucking best times too right, like the best times with that family, like it's not dim and gloom.
Speaker 3:It's not dim and gloom at all. The majority of I don't think of it like that, like you would think that that would be like every time you see him. That's a. It has zero. We don't even talk or think about that most of the time, unless it's in like a good memory, like hey, here's to you know what I mean. Whatever you remember when this happened or whatever, but nobody dwells on it and the family is just wonderful and when we see them it's just we're not. It's not a doom and gloom at all. It's always good times, always a lot of love and laughter. Yeah, I mean, they're full of it.
Speaker 2:They are, which also helped shape my son's personality, right, Right sure. So after we took the mushrooms and healed, there was a long period. I mean, obviously that didn't fix us right. You and I were still going through some shit. The girls had some heavy things to deal with that they couldn't just take mushrooms and deal with. They were like 9 and 15, right?
Speaker 3:There was a lot more living left to do after that and a lot more life. That happened and nobody ended—it wasn't just like that happened and then it's like sunny roses the rest of the way. That's just one part of the story, and we're not going down any of those other roads today, but it's it's been. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like this, this is just about celebrating him yeah and so how does that tie into the paranormal aspect? Because obviously, like we said earlier, when he was alive he loved to go to all these places and we have video and pictures, and you know whatever of all these places doing that with him, and we resurrected this journey just out of the blue. I don't think it had anything to do with him and as I was getting the episode ready, there were so many points where, like we're still talking about a lot of this stuff yeah, right now, even though it may not have been directly tied to what we were talking about.
Speaker 3:Wasn't directly tied to him, but he has a tie to all those things, even to like. I forgot that. He went up the one member when he stayed up at Graham's with me and Graham was telling him stories.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So he got to hear some of my grandma's stories which if you know they're legendary. And yeah, if you got to hear some grandma reed ghost stories bud that's about and he was like in totally intrigued. You know what I mean. Um, because you know she would. I mean she did probably talk all night about it, but I remember telling him about miller's church and devil bill and um, I mean I'm sure there was more.
Speaker 2:I I don't know off the top of my head, but so the story that jumps out the most to me, though, after, because, like during, when he was alive and we were going ghost hunting, it was just fun. It was just us, with teenagers acting like fools. They're getting scared, we're getting a crack out of it.
Speaker 3:Was there any real ghost hunting going on? Probably not, but it was fun to talk about and do.
Speaker 2:And to get them ramped up to be scared. That's what it is.
Speaker 3:It's about their reaction. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:And it was so fun and, like I said, we have pictures and all there's so many good pictures of like orbs and stuff like that, but I think that imprinted when he left, which is what I'm getting at. So I'm going to tell a quick story about Miller's Church and then I really want you to tell the story of Anthony and Anthony.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yep, yep.
Speaker 2:So for Miller's Church Road, after Ant had passed away, it was quite a few years after Scott and I were just out one night driving around. It was during an emotionally heightened time in our lives, which, if you know anything about paranormal, it usually is attached to heightened emotion, right, so I won't discount it or count it one way or the other. All I'll say is that we pulled up to Miller's Church the cemetery would have been on our right, so on the passenger side of the car, and we were just sitting idle there, just, you know, kind of listening, and I think something scared us and we decided to pull away, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't really remember what it was, but we pulled it off for some reason, but it wasn't like a suit.
Speaker 3:I was going to say maybe the neighbors kicked a light on or something. You know what I mean. So we're like maybe we need to get out of here.
Speaker 2:Something like that, I think, is what triggered us to yes, but you had pulled down like around the bend to the flat right when that farm field is.
Speaker 2:yeah, and you were just sitting there for a minute and at that very moment it was like I got a flash. I could see somebody sitting in the back seat through the side mirror and I don't know exactly how it happened, but one of us heard something. But I felt the kick in the back of my seat, like somebody's big ass knee just hit the back of my seat and at the same time we heard something. So I put my hand back there to feel and there were cans on the floor like empty cans. It was like somebody kicked the cans right, just as I felt the knee print. And the only person in our lives who had that big of a stature to hit the back of the seat with a knee print would have been Anne.
Speaker 3:Well, and he always was riding like backseat shotgun, like in the middle, kind of like Right, because you know he took up the seat, Straw eyes spreading goals. Yeah, he took up the seat, so it was very reminiscent of that and that's ironic because— it felt like an Anthony move. Yeah, and that's what brings us—that's what's crazy about is I think that this— that happened right after the story that I'm about to tell happened.
Speaker 2:It did. It was within probably 10 days.
Speaker 3:Yeah, within a couple of weeks. Yeah, because that was right, like at the time. All that's going on. You know what I mean. And so then this goes back to. As you know, we've talked about this on previous episodes. I used to be an addict, you know. It caused problems in our life and there was a time where it was like a breaking point. You know what I mean. But I got clean and this is right about the time that this is happening.
Speaker 3:This is shortly, I think right after, like right after I'd come back home from you know that little weird like rehab going yeah, it definitely was and so, um, and one of the things and we were like not living together like right at the time, and one I was things and we were like not living together like right at the time. And one of the I was staying with a friend of mine and he one of his part-time jobs. He had two jobs and during the day worked, but at night I would help him cause he delivered papers like early in the morning, so I would help him. You know what I mean, because it was easier with two people, you know. So I would give him a hand and he would give me throw me a couple bucks for helping him.
Speaker 3:And we were out near Pawn Bank, now, unbeknownst to my friend. We Pawn Bank was one of Ant's. Well, not only did he like to go there for like just goofing around paranormal, because there there's there's a little local legend about the lady in white. You know what? It's? Just a little. It's nothing crazy, it's just a little local legend. And people talk about this white lady of pond bank and he had been out but they also have like a pond there so you can fish and stuff. So like he liked that side of it too. So and we had gone fishing there and we had gone there at night doing like paranormal stuff and this.
Speaker 3:My friend knows nothing of this, but this is just one of the memories that I had with Anthony and my friend and I are back on this one road and he and we had never talked about anything like that. I barely knew the guy. To be honest with you, like I knew, I worked with him prior to that and then like we just kind of bonded but he helped me out and I mean it's crazy, but we're on this back road. He knows nothing of my life. I know a little bit, but not but not like anything about Anthony or anything like that. Like he has, you know, he knows that I was addicted. He knows that I used to work with him, he knows that I'm married, but he doesn't know any of any kind of backstory that's important to that. He doesn't know any of this it's very important.
Speaker 3:Yes, and so we get back there where it's recording, yes. And so we get back there where it's early, I don't know what, middle of the night, 1, 32 o'clock, 2, 30, I don't know, but somewhere in that neighborhood. It wasn't like it wasn't right at midnight and it wasn't, you know, later on in the morning, middle of the night. And we get back and he's uh, we get back to the pawn bank and we're back on this one's like we get back to the pawn bank and we're back on this one dirt road where we had to go take the one newspaper, and he's like I don't want to spook you. I don't know how he brought it up, but it was like I don't want to sound weird, I don't want to, you know, scare you. He said. But he said I'm what they call. He said I'm what he said.
Speaker 3:How did he say it? I can't. I wish I could remember the exact word. I would like I'm what they call a psychic medium. Do you know what that is? And that's how much. He doesn't know me, cause if you know me, you clearly know that I know what that is, and I was like sure, of course. You know, know what that is, and I was like sure, of course you know, of course I know what that is. And he's like well, he's like I'm getting, he's like I see things, he's like you know, and he's like this area back here is very. Whatever he said, I don't remember specifically, but he's like there's somebody sitting in the back seat of the car and he, he's like, and he just keeps telling me that we have something in common. And that's when it hit me. Oh crap, though A song came on the radio. What song came on? Remember, I told you, the radio cut out and the song changed, but I don't remember what came on. That's a damn on. That's a damn it.
Speaker 2:That's a detail.
Speaker 3:It wasn't Ripple, it wasn't Ripple. That's what my first instinct was.
Speaker 2:And it wasn't Fishing in the Dark.
Speaker 3:I don't think so, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:Regardless, the radio changed you know what I mean to a song that because I remember that anthony said that that was because it was he was playing a playlist and he said that that song hadn't come up in his playlist in a long time yeah, I know it might have been ripple and maybe I'm just I likeipple One.
Speaker 3:Maybe I'm thinking that I'm conflating that with the other story and I'm not, but regardless, that doesn't matter. That's not an important part of the story.
Speaker 2:It was a meaningful song to you at the time and the radio cut out.
Speaker 3:It was just very weird. It was something happened with the radio and it immediately started playing this song. And I should also mention too, that mention too that, oh wait, was it sublime it might have been.
Speaker 3:It might have been sublime, I don't remember. I just remember it had a connection to the moment and to that and like that's what clued me in, like this is what's happening, but we I also the part that I think you forgot about, I think Fishing in the Dark played when we were that Miller's Church road trip that we're talking about, when you saw him in the back seat. I think that came on like right after that.
Speaker 3:And that's when we knew yeah that's when we knew we were like, yeah, that was definitely him, because it was like this thing happened. And then Fishing in the Dark comes on, or it might have even happened slightly before that and then that happened.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:I don't remember the order, but it wasn't my playlist, because—. Right, it was just the regular radio.
Speaker 2:At the time I had a CD player still in my car and I did play his funeral funeral cd a lot. But this wasn't that. This was just radio play, not even random just radio right, just regular 97.6.
Speaker 3:You know, whatever it was but, still, it was random. That's the point of both of these. They weren't like. It wasn't like we had our list on there. That wouldn't be. We wouldn't act that way. About that I wouldn't surprise me. But anyway, back to the story at hand. He sees this guy my friend sees this guy in the backseat. He's like he's telling me that he has something in common with him. Like I said, the radio thing happened. I start to put it all together because I didn't necessarily hit me right away.
Speaker 2:It had been a while since he had passed, I mean.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this was like five, six, seven years later, right, yeah, so this is not something that was. It's not like it was fresh and just heavy on our minds. This is totally out of the situation and just completely random, like of the person that I know that's saying this, and then it dawns on me my friend's name is Anthony, too, the psychic medium, and I was like, and then I, like, I said, I started to put all this together, the song, him saying this, saying they have something in common, and I was like, dude, I gotta tell you something. And that's what I said. And then he was freaked out too, of course, but I mean, you talk about we, and it was one, and then followed up by what we experienced. It was like very much, that was a time in our lives when he was very near yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Like he was right there, like I don't think that the our you know whatever like hang around all the time watching us like supervisors, but they are there when we need us and that was a time that we were like through some stuff and he was right there. The veil was thin at that time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, as it always is when there's emotional turmoil, I mean, that's just all there is to say about it. Sure 100%, but yeah, so he would have been 30 last year.
Speaker 3:31 this year on May 23rd.
Speaker 2:I know I feel so fucking old and I mean he's just so loved. There's so many of his friends that still, you know, talk about him to this day, keep him in his memories, in their memories. Obviously, you know his cousins. I'm still very close with them, my nephews, they're my boys, always will be, but yeah.
Speaker 3:What amazes me is everybody experiences death of one of their, like friends that you went to school with or whatever, but I mean every, most, I should not every, but most kids go through that at one time or another the loss of a friend, somebody, a peer, for the first time or whatever. But usually time passes and those kids forget about, but not, and they still, as adults you know what I mean Every year mention, you know what I mean. They don't forget, never forget, never forget, but they don't forget, do you know?
Speaker 2:what I mean. Yeah, don't forget, never forget.
Speaker 3:Never forget, but they don't forget. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2:Yeah, they don't they don't forget they're so good and that's why I feel bad. Like I said, I know I cut it off earlier with my emotion, but I'm gathered now. I feel bad about not being closer to some of them. Now, it's not like they all needed moms, it's not like he ran a bunch. I mean Waynesboro. For the most part, all the kids have Dease parents. They might be struggling in one area or another, but I mean I'm not going to say there's not any parents in Waynesboro, but what I'm saying is from my experience, the kids that all three of my kids went to high school with all their parents were pretty good, like decent, just hardworking normal.
Speaker 2:Americans Trying to no, no, those kids, really no, I laugh because all those boys, all those rural, because Waynesboro's the suburbs, right, it's semi-rural, it's a mixture of rural I can't say that word but um, rural, it sounds like I'm really, I don't know, but um, those boys wanted to be thug though. They wanted to be hood, they wanted to be oh, they all it was hilarious they all it cracked me up to know and I love it.
Speaker 2:But anyways, here's to Chubby. May he long reign in heaven and welcome every one of his friends who happen to be popping up there with open arms. And it's 15 years, so I probably am going to try not to talk about it again until maybe 20. But he's going to be looking over us a lot over the next couple of years and more to come on that because again, those that need to know, know.
Speaker 2:Those that know, know, but that blessing that we have coming is a visual reminder of his yeah. Yeah, that's exactly right. I'm getting emotional again. So we're going to wrap it up. We will see you guys in two weeks, and by then we will have done a whole rack of comedy shit, a whole rack of paranormal.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we were just talking about Millerer's church. We're going back. Will anthony show up in the back?
Speaker 2:we don't know we'll find out.
Speaker 3:So yeah, so, like some of the things that we talked about, we're going to rehash, not from that angle, but just from a historical perspective.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and we'll be out. I want to go out to his grave this weekend, so we'll be out there. Yeah, miller's Church. I'm trying to think if there's anything else around there that I want to add up, anyways, yeah we can discuss that.
Speaker 3:Yep, september 13th, get your ass down, tuna, come to my comedy show. Oh, september 13th, get your ass to Altoona, come to my comedy show.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yes, Rain drop in September 27th.
Speaker 3:Come on out October 12th. Come on back up to Altoona October 18th. Come to John's town. It's happening, it's going down, I'm pumped and if nobody's told you, bitches today they it's going down, I'm pumped Boom.
Speaker 2:And if nobody's told you, bitches today.
Speaker 3:Big trashy.
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