Gilded Trash
Ride shotgun with Comedian Scott Reed and Creator AlannaB as they travel the country in search of ...what? When they figure it out, you'll be the first to know!
Gilded Trash
Yinz are Down to Earth
We take you on our UFO adventure to Pennsylvania's Roswell – the Kecksburg UFO Festival where we meet renowned paranormal researchers and dive deep into cryptid culture.
• Celebrating Alanna's 50th birthday week with unforgettable adventures
• South Mountain Hotel remains our favorite place with great staff, food, and atmosphere
• Exploring the Kecksburg UFO Festival, site of the famous 1965 UFO crash
• Meeting paranormal research celebrities like Stan Gordon and Ron Murphy who have appeared on History Channel
• Discovering incredible craftsmanship in Sasquatch wood carvings and skull art
• Learning about the "goblin universe" theory of interdimensional travel
• Connecting UFO phenomena with rich Appalachian folklore traditions
• Finding out about Squonk Fest in our hometown celebrating Cambria County's cryptid
• Reviewing Happy Gilmore 2 and Death of a Unicorn - both highly recommended
• Planning future adventures investigating paranormal phenomena across Appalachia
Join us this weekend at Squonk Fest in Johnstown's Cambria City at the Bottleworks venue if you want to experience a cryptid festival for yourself!
Yeah, we ride and drive, track, talk, talk and go. Scott and the Atlanta on the mic, stories unfold. We're back, welcome back.
Speaker 2:Welcome back there you go, there you go. Oh, you like my shirt.
Speaker 1:I do Look at this guy, look at this guy.
Speaker 3:I love it. Look at this guy.
Speaker 1:I try to get the spaceship. Try to get the spaceship. No, these are awesome. We'll talk about these in a minute, though what are you doing?
Speaker 2:Looking for my card.
Speaker 1:Oh well, I wasn't going to mention them yet. Okay, we'll get to that, because we wanted to start off.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. How did we even get these shirts?
Speaker 1:Why were?
Speaker 2:we in Kecksburg.
Speaker 1:Right, that wasn't on our agenda for last time.
Speaker 2:No, it wasn't. So, as you guys know, I am coming off my 50th birthday week and we went to my favorite place in the whole wide world South Mountain Hotel, Yep.
Speaker 1:Shaking my head.
Speaker 2:SMH. What's their logo? Getting high at—.
Speaker 3:Is that what it is?
Speaker 2:Yeah, getting high at 20,000 feet or whatever, however high it is. Getting high at 20 000 feet or whatever, however high it is I don't know how high the peak is.
Speaker 1:I think it's only a couple thousand feet, three thousand, we'll say three, that's three thousand feet. That's probably, honestly, probably three thousand feet's, probably like the average of, like, like the you know what I mean most of the mountains in pennsylvania, like if, because you see, like when you're siding hills, like 2,900, the other one which I'm gonna call, is just over 3,000. Like the highest one in Pennsylvania, I think is, is Mount Davis, that's, I believe, 3,900 feet. I believe is what I want to say. So you know what I mean. Like, yeah, and 2,000 feet would be probably more like Blue Ridge Summit. Do you know what I mean? That's like a little lower over in that area. You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:Maybe it's like getting high at 2,500 feet.
Speaker 1:That might be. It'd be great if it was really specific. Get high at 2,778 and a third feet.
Speaker 2:I'll have to dig up one of my old T-shirts, see if I have one. I don't even know what I did with them all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:So I mean we've talked about this before South Mountain is like the place it's just home.
Speaker 1:It's the best bar in the world. I mean there's no other way to put it. It's the best. I mean, every place you go you never find one quite like that. Even the good ones aren't that good. You know what I mean. Like they're not like. If it's a five, then it ticks all the boxes.
Speaker 2:It ticks all the boxes, great owner, great food, great staff Everybody knows their name and if they don't, they either want to or they don't, and you'll know quickly.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's cool right I love it sebast, ever since we started going there. It's so funny. I remember like it's we started going to her. Was it during covid right? During COVID right? Yeah, it was the first time that we went up. There was in the daytime or no, it was that night that, remember. We got wings.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that girl was working.
Speaker 1:And then the second time, and then we never saw again.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then the second time we went there was on New Year's Day. Our neighbor was working, remember? That's how we even discovered who made that connection.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And there wasn't many people there and I don't remember if that was because of COVID or I don't think COVID was getting ready to hit it was starting to be in the news and then it was like this is January of 2020. Yeah, so, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And nobody was there. But the owner was sitting at the end of the bar and he was talking, talking, talking about sports, and I was like, oh my Lord, who's this guy? And then the bartender was like, oh, he's the owner. Oops, but now we love him, I love him yeah I worked for him so, and you guys are cool, so I consider him one of my good friends yeah yeah, I mean he's uh, he's, he's uh, he's a good friend, that's yeah and we've talked about this a lot too.
Speaker 2:He puts a lot of money back into the business. It looks really good, yeah like I've never.
Speaker 1:I like I've never. I mean, and I've worked for. You know what I mean. I've worked for plenty of people. You've worked for plenty of bar owners. I've never seen a bar owner put back into the business what he does. It's not even close, it's not even a contact.
Speaker 2:I agree.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's like you know what I mean. He's constantly doing something.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And the food.
Speaker 2:I love their food. I love their food.
Speaker 1:And it's simple. It's not crazy. You're not going there to get a Michelin star meal. You're going there to get a hot chicken sandwich with gravy on it and fresh cut fries. Son Like, get out of here with that bullshit.
Speaker 2:Their fried oyster sandwiches are very popular.
Speaker 1:The the old ladies love them well, the thing that I love about brad is that he always makes sure that he like, orders good stuff, like the meat, like the hamburgers from steely, you know what I mean. Like all that stuff makes a difference yeah to make sure you have good quality ingredients.
Speaker 2:And it's basically a mini casino up there. I mean it is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean it is a casino, a little casino.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Don't say that it's nothing like that. It's not.
Speaker 2:There's nothing going on there.
Speaker 1:It's boring. Well, I mean, it's the same thing that everybody else has. That's perfectly legal. I'm not saying there's nothing illegal going on there, I'm not saying that but you know those things are coming up, it's all coming under fire. You know what I mean, Like the legality of it and stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I don't even want to talk about that because that'll take us down a whole other rabbit hole about gambling that I don't want to talk about today. But I agree with you. It's such a pain in the ass. It's just who all has their hands in the pot or who can't get their hands in the pot right.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah.
Speaker 2:Anyway, back to reality, back to reality, back to reality, back to reality. So we were supposed to spend Thursday, friday, in the Waynesboro proper area and then go down to Virginia Beach to see Dan Soder. However, thursday night I got a little too tipsy and I threw one of my drunken meltdowns.
Speaker 1:Classic Elena.
Speaker 2:That said, we checked into a hotel room, I changed into my PJs and I was like I don't want to be here, I want to go home. So Scott, being the fucking awesome supportive husband that he is, especially on my birthday, drove the two hours home for us, and so Friday was just a chill day, and I love those. I mean when I tell you guys that I'm like on the spectrum, like I value nothing more than being in my bubble. Sometimes, even when he talks to me, I'm like shh, don't talk. Nobody talks to me. So I get it. I get why I'm starting to understand more why people on the spectrum wear headphones a lot. Like I get it, it's an easy out, but I also like to engage, so I don't want to do that Anywho. So got my way Friday and then Saturday.
Speaker 1:Well, no, don't gloss over it. Friday we had king crab legs.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, I forgot about that Shit.
Speaker 1:Which was good, because neither of us have ever had them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and that was a fun experience.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was fun. I mean we made everything, we had a little seafood feast.
Speaker 2:Not we. You made everything, but yeah, little seafood feast.
Speaker 1:Not we, you made everything and but yeah, okay go ahead and continue. I didn't want to gloss over the king crab legs because they were funny. Oh my gosh, it's not going to be the last time I'll tell you that.
Speaker 2:And I got a $250 birthday bonus from FanDuel, so I gambled all night. Didn't win anything. This is the first birthday in probably five years that I didn't actually come out ahead. You did a little bit.
Speaker 1:A little bit yeah.
Speaker 2:So then, Saturday we did so much Saturday yes.
Speaker 1:That was cool.
Speaker 2:That was so cool. We drove out to Kecksburg, which is not that far from us.
Speaker 1:No, it's about right around an hour. It's about 55 minutes. It's, you know, right there, Right down the road. I mean it's not far because it's not like you're jumping on an interstate highway to get there. Right, it's probably only 30 miles, you know what I mean, but like it takes you an hour to get there. You know what. I'm saying it's not that far.
Speaker 2:Especially like, depending on which way you go, there's a little bit of traffic either way. So if you go like that way Right. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because you've got to cross 30 at some point. Once you get over 30 and get up into the forest country. Yeah, beautiful drive.
Speaker 1:Beautiful drive. Yeah, beautiful drive. I mean. It's a beautiful drive on the other side too, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's very nice but, as we all know, back in 1965, there was a UFO that crashed there that one right there and you might have seen it on Beyond Skinwalker Ranch. You might have seen it on the Unexplained Multiple History Channel programs, you might have seen it. I mean, they've made a gazillion things about this thing. It's literally they call it Pennsylvania things about this thing. It's literally they call it pennsylvania's roswell because it's at that level, it's like the biggest one. You know what I mean? Like there's a million of them. This is the one. This is the one that people still talk about. It happened in 1965. That's what 60 years ago.
Speaker 2:A lot of ways years ago. Yeah, it is, it's 60 years ago.
Speaker 1:I was like, okay, 60 years ago and people are still talking about it as much as, probably even more than when it happened. That tells you the level of interest in it, and every year they have a festival there. It's put on at the volunteer fire department and I guess that's what it raises money for. Is the fire?
Speaker 2:department there. Yeah, they have a lot of cool merch that they sell themselves.
Speaker 1:Oh man, they have great merch, but then they also— and what I love about them is their concession stand. They're not ripping you off, or nothing at their thing. Not at all love about them is like their concession stand, like they're not ripping you off or nothing, that their thing not like it's, it's very, it's. Yeah, it's very family friendly, budget friendly. If you don't buy five hundred dollars worth of books um t-shirts we went in just because it's like you walk in, you're like I want everything yeah, oh, my god, wanted literally one.
Speaker 2:As soon as we walked into the park, there was the first display. Before you even get into the actual venue was just nothing but wood carvings. Some of them were like the one I think was probably eight feet tall.
Speaker 1:And we're not just talking your standard wood carving. Not only do they have an entire line of like Sasquatch wood carvings, they had these skulls right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they looked like polished bone, like that's how good the color of the skull carvings were. They looked legitimately like bone. It was good. I mean they're beautiful. We thought we were going to go back the next day and we ended up not, but I was like I wanted to come home and do the research and figure out how much those skulls were Because, like we know, they're pricey, like at a place, and I mean as well they should be. I mean, those things take a lot of time and effort.
Speaker 1:Oh, the craftsmanship is superb. I mean, it's very, very nice yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure, they're not just like assembly line made Each one has a little.
Speaker 1:They're all one of a kind, essentially, and but then, like you said, like the giant Sasquatch, I mean, trust me, there's nothing more than I don't know what it costs. It's probably $1,000 for one of those giant, but I want a giant Sasquatch to sit outside my door. They're literally like eight feet tall, bigger than me, and they're amazing looking.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But yeah, but no, but it's just to go back a little bit because I think we kind of glossed over it. But at this UFO festival they have all kinds of vendors, speakers, there's all kinds. Look at this activity list, holy cow, get a look at that. I mean let's just take a look at some of the things. They got a bed race. We missed it. It says it's the only bed race in the county. I mean, come on.
Speaker 2:Wait, hold on a second. So only bed race in the county applies that there are other bed races in this state which I know, no more guys, I'm going to have to look into this, right.
Speaker 1:So it's a three-day event Friday, saturday, sunday. Friday night you got like a. You have music being played. They got it's like half-priced food night. You know, that's all the insides. All the vendors, the speakers and stuff are there. Saturday they got a parade, they had the bed race, they had music, they had the stuff inside, you know, and then fireworks after all of that, and then Sunday they had a UFO, hot dog eating, competition, more music, they had speakers. You know all kinds of stuff, and when I say speakers, they got the best.
Speaker 2:They really did. I mean, I am amazed at how approachable this circle of people are.
Speaker 1:We came for the funnel cakes and got way more than we bargained for you want to do something sometime, just let me know way, way, way ahead of time.
Speaker 2:Of course.
Speaker 1:Not one, but two national treasures.
Speaker 2:What's your name? My name is Ron Murphy. Ron Podcast.
Speaker 3:No way, yeah it's called Gilded Trash.
Speaker 2:Take my card though that's all my contact information.
Speaker 3:I would gladly come on and talk about this stuff, okay.
Speaker 2:Like really amazed, like they're so down to earth really amazed.
Speaker 1:Like they're so down to earth, right, which is funny. That is funny. That's very, very clever. I like that, um. But, like, like you said, it's for the different groups of people that, like you, I mean these are people they're author. Now it's not like these are new york. Sometimes these are guys that deal with like bigfoot u, ufos, cryptids, anything like that Paranormal research. But like these are some big names. I mean these guys have been on the History Channel, like the Unexplained episodes They've been featured on Beyond Skinwalker Ranch. I mean, like these guys are sort of we joked around about Adam's Shadow Child, but that's exactly like the—it's like a— it's a color following they're the Michael Jordan of Bigfoot researchers and stuff.
Speaker 2:They really are. They really are Like the only better personality that could have been there is like Andy Dikonakis or whatever that guy's name is, with the hair, the Greek.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but he's ancient aliens. We're talking about modern aliens.
Speaker 2:Wait, what's his name though? Suculos, georgios, suculos, georgios, suculos.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but no, I love that guy, but no, but I mean, it's not nobody like that, but like Stan Gordon's been on everything. I mean when it comes comes, these guys are when they're they're it when it comes to pennsylvania. The ron murphy, stan gordon, eric altwald is that his name. Am I pronouncing that correctly? I'm sure he's probably on the list. I don't know, but if I am, we'll fix it later. But uh, but you know what I mean? These guys are like at the top, like that's why these shows go to those people, because anytime they're filming something about Western Pennsylvania, these are the guys. Like these are the guys.
Speaker 2:And I feel like such a dumbass because, like I was filming while we were like talking to these different people and I literally filmed right past two of the gentlemen who have been on multiple of the shows and I was just like, oh hey, hi, whatever, film, film, film. And they were probably they've spoken on as many as some of the I mean the other guys that were there. Sorry, guys, you can come on the podcast if you'd like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we didn't mention your names, but there's too many to like and it's too many to memorize. I don't know all these people. I'm not familiar with all their work, although I'm becoming. I bought several books. I've been reading them, learning about. How many shows have we watched? That's the other thing about Chestnut Ridge. There's an amazing amount of information out there, like shows. We just got done watching a six-part documentary. You can go watch it for yourselves for free on tubi. Yeah, it's called uh, sasquatch, something about sasquatch and the ridge. There's a word in between there, but I don't remember.
Speaker 2:We'll put it in the thing yeah, I don't remember, but yeah, I'll put it in.
Speaker 2:So, um, I mean, yeah, that was but it features all these people we're talking about yeah, I mean it's insane and so obviously I'm not as in this, I don't study as much of it like I'm not in the people. For me, this is the same as like marvel, right, like I know which characters I love and trust and like are my favorites, but I don't know their backstories or how they got to where they got. I don't know any of that. I'm not a Marvel nerd, but I'm a Marvel enthusiast.
Speaker 3:You're a UFO nerd.
Speaker 2:Enthusiast. You're a UFO nerd. You know the players, some of their backstories. You know the actual dates and times. I'm a UFO enthusiast. You're a UFO nerd. You know the players, some of their backstories. You know the actual dates and times. I'm a UFO enthusiast.
Speaker 1:And I wouldn't even call my. I'm a Like. I would consider myself a casual enthusiast and you're probably more of a passing enthusiast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:Like I'm interested I'm intrigued.
Speaker 2:I want to hear the story. Um, ron murphy gave me the best phrase of my entire like this whole existence, which is woo. Like I get that woo is required to like bring people in, but I'm I get disenchanted by woo. So like I've done this whole thing with the paranormal people. You remember when we first started dating how much I love the Long Island medium. She was like my hero. I really thought that I was going to start walking around coldly reading people and I probably could, if I like dove into it. But I'm not gonna. Like I don't want that's not the energy. I want following me around for the rest of my life, right, but I'm not gonna Like I don't want that's not the energy. I want following me around for the rest of my life, right. So in that case, like I've been through because I was a nerd of new age, we'll call it at one point I got disenchanted by the sales pitches and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:Well, and I think too, what happened there for a period of time. They call it the ghost hunters phenomenon Because, let's be honest, I mean before that show, everything else was sort of. When it came, it was the biggest thing in paranormal since paranormal. So what happened then is you had this huge explosion and then, in order to like, make, like, make tv shows, you gotta one-up each other because they're not the only game in town.
Speaker 1:So then it becomes sensationalized. And then what happened? Is it sort of burned itself out like you're talking about, like the woo fact? They relied all on that. Instead of the now, was there stuff going on where there was good, actual investigation? Of course there always has been there, always will be yes but as far as it being at the forefront, I mean that pushed a lot of people away it did and so.
Speaker 2:but what I also love about discovering this kind of universal folks is that what I've observed so far from everything I've seen, is that they're just genuinely like nice guys that just know a lot about the experience. They know it's no different than having like a hunting guide if you're going deer hunting Sure.
Speaker 1:And they all are very approachable in the sense of like they're not trying, like nobody got it is getting into that business for the money, no trust and believe there's no money. Yet I mean I'm not saying those guys can't make a living and stuff right, I'm sure that they do, but I'm not, but they're not going to be. It's not fame and riches chasing bigfoot down no, no not until they actually get them.
Speaker 1:So these guys are like they don't. They're not trying to sell you anything is what I'm getting at. They're not trying to. It's not, they don't. If you want to talk to them, great. If you don't, don't, like if you have a storyteller and you want to share it, great, but they're not pushing you. It's like they're just all very down to earth, like you said, as weird as that is which they're just all very down to earth like you said as weird as that is, which is awesome for us.
Speaker 2:These alien people are so down to earth that sounds ridiculous in on so many levels, because so many people just take it with a grain of sand yeah, it's, but seriously, like, the more that I am watching these like shows with you and stuff like that, the more I realize I, like, I love nerd stuff. I love nerd stuff. And this is just a different layer of nerd stuff it really is. And so I just get excited to hear people that are articulate, right, speaking about something that they have a lot of knowledge on. That fascinates me, so Right. That they have a lot of knowledge on that fascinates me, so right.
Speaker 1:And I had a point there that I was going to say like you, and I lost it totally. No, but it was just the fact that, like, like the whole I know it sounds ridiculous, but none of these people, none of the people that I've met that take this seriously, like these guys you know what I mean. Like you do you?
Speaker 1:meet hacks and crazies, of course, but you do in anything I mean, you know what I mean. Like you meet crazy people at the sheets, you know what I'm saying. Like you meet crazy people and there's always going to be that fringe group, that's like wow. But these guys that actually take this genuine and like, treat it with respect, they don't ever speak in absolutes. Like they don't ever claim to know what's going on, claim to understand.
Speaker 1:They fully admit that they don't understand the scope of this thing and we speculate a lot because that's all you can really do, but I've never heard them say like none of these people are ever like oh, this is definitely aliens, this is definitely that they don't know. And they say that they're like I have no idea what this is, but it's weird and I want to know more.
Speaker 2:Well, so I'll give you a great example, because we made fun of this last. Halloween is like every paranormal show that I watch. There's like a template. When I watch UFO shows, they don't open up the show with we're going to research this with a spectrometer, and what a spectrometer means to you. Like stop it. They don't do that. Like they have gear. They explain it, but it's not like you don't get to. It's not like that. They have to get this. This is a spirit box.
Speaker 1:They gotta get the voice box in, it's gotta say something, and then they're gonna play some little fuzz and they're gonna put here I. I challenge you to anybody that watches those shows. I challenge you because they do it on every single one, with the spirit box, the voice box, whatever they call it EVPs. I challenge anyone and I'm not saying that I haven't heard like good examples of this or like real phenomena, but what they try to sell you on these TV shows is garbage. They play some gobbledygook and then they, but they put on the screen what they want you to say. Try to make out what those things are saying without reading what's at the block off the bottom of your screen and try to tell you can't ever come anywhere close.
Speaker 2:To what they're saying Every once in a while they will say a name through the voice box that you're like oh yeah, okay, that's the name. But more often than not, when they're trying to string phrases, it's like filter, bias, yeah, bias, filter.
Speaker 1:It's because they're putting the word on and you hear that you can't unhear it.
Speaker 2:Then, even if you once you've right but well in some cases you can unhear it because it's so blatant that you're like no no, it didn't.
Speaker 1:They're like it said go back to hell, you, son of a bitch. And then it's like you're just like, and're just like, and you're like what yeah? You're like that did not. Say that that did not. And, like I said, I'm not saying that that phenomena is bullshit, because I've heard good ones, but I'm just saying what they try to sell you 95% of the time on the TV shows. That's what you get.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that again's, it's just another reason why I love this phenomena. But not only do I love this phenomena, for just the very reason of, like, the possibility of ufos and aliens, what you'll mean aliens, um, about aliens, is that um and I talked about this a little bit earlier today it crosses so many things that I am obsessed with. Like I am full on obsessed with Appalachian folklore, right, but I'm more obsessed in the folklore of the humans, the human spirit, the struggle. But then when you layer in, like all these stories about don't look in the trees at night, don't whistle at night, don't look behind you at night, there's goblins in the caves, yeah, and you hear the stories.
Speaker 1:It's so strange too, because, like one of the things that Ron Murphy talks about in his book about Chestnut Ridge is he talks about like always being drawn to that forest, and I relate to that much in the same way of like the forest that I grew up in. But grandma Reed used to tell me those stories you know what I mean Like of the Indian that they saw like ghosts, that they saw.
Speaker 1:Like there was all these things about the forest, about these areas, this area was had this and this area. So it was like all these different little things and I it's the same thing thing out here with this and you just hear these little, just like pockets of it's like fascinating people. The people are all connected, the Appalachian people with these, like traditional folklore stories, and it says it not only connects, it says a lot about their lives, not just from the aspect of there being something paranormal, but you fear, like things that affect your life. Do you know what I mean? Like that's where these folkloric legends come from.
Speaker 2:Well, so there's a girl that I follow on TikTok Her name is Thursday Adams, and she does all the Appalachian lore, and she told a story this morning and I was like that makes a lot of sense too. She said that part of the lore comes from the moonshiners trying to get you to stay away from their steels.
Speaker 1:That could very well be, and also we know a lot of the stories going back to, like my grandma's grandma, the people labeled a witch, even though that's not like how she would define herself, just like a natural healer.
Speaker 2:Right you know, what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So like you label that in and you see how these things get twisted, is my point.
Speaker 2:Right, right, right. Well, and there's—because I've heard this similar story and I've talked about it before about people speaking verses from the Bible and the burn coming out of somebody when they're burned like those kind of things, those all you know they come from, stuff like that. But in the Appalachia, however you say it, in the mountain range, there you've got all the different folklore.
Speaker 1:You've got the Scottish Irish, German, it's almost like American voodoo, like not voodoo in any way, shape or form. I'm not suggesting that, but in the way that it took the religions and the cultures of the people and got intertwined with, like a ancient sort of practice into this more modern thing yes, yes, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 2:I mean, there's not. I don't know that there is a word for it, but voodoo is particular to a region, right and sure yeah, it's a bit, but I'm saying much in that same way.
Speaker 1:It took it's this outside source mixing with the local thing to create this like new thing.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, I love it so much and then and I'm sure you have so much to say on this, so I just want to segue you into it. You know that I am obsessed with like glitches in the matrix time jumps, portals, portals, portals. I love a good portal story.
Speaker 2:You don't love a portal and so, like I've always kind of underlying believe that that's exactly what it is. It's just like, whatever you think of it as, or you know, like a wrinkle in time or overlapping time frames or time shift or whatever it is, it's just a energetic way to pass through.
Speaker 1:It's like an overlap of dimensions and time, yeah.
Speaker 2:Whether it's time travel or just travel.
Speaker 1:Or dimensions. That's the question. It could be all of these things or some combination of them, but I definitely think that's where this is all headed. I mean, that's certainly, I think, the theory that most people that take a look at the entire spectrum of evidence come to. Like Stan Gordon said in that documentary that we were watching like, at the beginning he definitely thought that, like UFOs were only extraterrestrial, but as he's gone on he thinks now that that's not the case at all, that it's related to this. Ron Murphy calls it the goblin universe, this like sort of interdimensional travel, space-time continuum thing.
Speaker 2:Well, so think about it. Think about this because you know I have a couple theories right.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So I told you earlier that what if the dinosaurs just broke through the portal and like they all had to come back through the portal, which is why we believe that they went extinct but a couple of them actually like stayed here, like the Thunderbird thing that we were looking at earlier?
Speaker 1:Right, right, did they? Or here's another question. So like what if they slid off all of it, like slid to this other dimension, and then they come back through occasionally, which is why we see the Thunderbirds or a loch ness monster or whatever, because you got like certain ones slipping back through or whatever. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like I don't know how it works well, here's my other thought, because um who, who was it? Was it hitchens? Who's christopher?
Speaker 1:it's. Christopher Hitchens is more of a religious writer.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, it wasn't Christopher Hitchens, it was Graham Hancock's book.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Graham Hancock.
Speaker 2:And it's always just stuck in my mind that like, so you know how, like when you go on ayahuasca trips and DMT, you see the machine elves. So what if we're just projecting what's really living inside of our brains outward like a movie projection?
Speaker 1:And that's a good question and that brings up an interesting point and this is where I thought you were going with this, because Graham Hancock, I think, talks about in that same book that like what's weird about those experiences people across time, regions and cultures all report seeing the same entities.
Speaker 2:Even uncivilized cultures that don't have.
Speaker 1:Right that don't have. Right. That makes you question like what is it Like? What are you taking a peek at? You know what I mean Right Like it's? I don't know. It gives me the good willies you just sound like what about Bob, when he's like ooh, oh, my Atlanta.
Speaker 2:No, I love it so much. And if you guys didn't see the TikTok video or Facebook or whatever, the Circles video. So, as we were walking through the venue, meeting all of these gentlemen who are well-known, well-known in the circle, Well-known researchers, well-known researchers, to your point.
Speaker 2:They are the Michael Jordans of the UFO world, and we got one, two offers to go on podcasts. Dave Spinks doesn't know it yet, but we're going to creep him until he lets us do one of his shows or he just comes on the podcast because that was cool too.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to take him to a haunted spot. That's what I'll do. I'll write to him and be like I got a haunted spot. I'm trying to take him. That's what I'll do. I'll write to him and be like I got a haunted spot. I got a barbecue restaurant and I got a brewery. Let's go.
Speaker 2:I'll introduce him to it.
Speaker 3:I'll tell you the story.
Speaker 1:You can research it yourself and do all that and bring all your people. I'll just be the local guy that you talk to in the episode.
Speaker 2:One of the things that we doing for this year's uh see, this season of gilded trash was doing cooking episodes and we bought a book called cooking with cryptids by david sphinx. So I say we take some of the cooking with cryptid recipes and just film cooking with cryptids and with my editing skills, who knows, maybe there'll be an alien cooking with us.
Speaker 1:But no, but that brings back to another interesting point. That was like the really cool thing, like that was quite the moment. That'd be quite the show that I would watch Would be. Dave Spinks talked about that. He's working on a show where they like with the drummer from Shinedown right.
Speaker 2:Right right.
Speaker 1:How do you know him? But cool, and we got the inside news on some paranormal bruising cues.
Speaker 3:I'm part of a new show called Booze Bruising Barbecues with my good friend Barry Kurtz, the drummer of Shinedown. Oh really, yeah. So that'll be coming out next year as well.
Speaker 2:And we do a ton of cooking on that show as well.
Speaker 3:It's a lot of fun. We do something fun. Well, mine's, like two of my favorite things oh so we go in the show, we go to a haunted location. We investigate it. Then we go to a local brewery and we sample all their beer, and then we go to a local barbecue joint and then we also cook, because you know our guy, our main cook guy, he's sponsored by Rectech. You're going to make him cry. So we cook something on the show too.
Speaker 1:That's awesome, it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2:Who do? I assign this to I know I just need him on the podcast so we can talk about how that all, because that's what I love. So Dave is kind of like he's UFOs and cryptids and like all these guys are.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah yeah, all like he's UFOs and cryptids and like all these guys are.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but he's trying to do either sells down to one thing, right, but he's trying to do other things with it, which I love to love.
Speaker 1:The idea for the show where they go do an investigation, they go to a local brewery and then they go check out a local barbecue place. I mean, you're basically taking every that's. What they're going to start doing now is taking all the TV shows and mashing them together. Yeah, because people don't want to see one thing.
Speaker 2:You had an idea about a show which I think would be amazing. I don't know if you want to talk about it or if we want to keep it secret, but taking actual comedians or comics into paranormal Investigations yeah. Investigations and getting their reactions Like because they're caught-ups, it's funny.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it'll be fun. But yeah, no, that's a lot of fun too. But I mean, yeah, like, I'm so excited that they were like even— how quick they were. They're like oh, you have a podcast, I'll come on it. They didn't ask any questions, they didn't say you have a following Because they just want to get exposure. They don't care, they just want to talk about it, and talk about it with people that like to talk about it. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we're boring sometimes talking to each other. We need a third.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean I want to talk to people that, like I would love to ask it here and ask questions about all these things, and I'm sure some of the people that listen would love that too, and maybe people that don't listen would love to tune in for that to get to hear. But that's what I was, that's where I was going with that. I totally forgot five minutes ago. I wanted to come to this. All this brings us to right here in Johnstown this weekend Not this weekend, it's Sunday, but next weekend Squonk Fest, which we didn't even know was a thing. We learned that they're like everybody kept asking us. They're like you guys, everybody there at Kecksburg. They're like the next one up is Squonk baby, you going, and we're like I have no idea what that is.
Speaker 2:Tickets I love tickets.
Speaker 1:But yeah, but turns out that, yeah, there's a cryptid. So apparently Cambry County has their own cryptid. It's called the Squonk, it's like some sort of man-bear-pig thing and it's but yeah, the I'm going to learn about it. I don't know anything about it. Um, but yeah, they're having a big festival, kind of like what we just went to Same thing, vendors, speakers, all of that. Check it out.
Speaker 2:In Cambria City. It's at the Bottleworks venue, so it'll be indoor, outdoor, just like this other one was. You'll you know you'll have a chance to go inside and talk and see things. The speakers are going to be at the building at certain times, so yeah, definitely we are definitely checking it out.
Speaker 1:Go check it out, squonkfest. You can check it out on any social media platform. They got plenty of stuff out there if you want to see the schedule. But it's right here in Johnstown, in Cambria City, this coming weekend, so that's going to be a lot of fun. You'll see us there if you go. That's for damn sure. That's for damn sure.
Speaker 2:And we'll be taking bets on how large our book collection becomes over the next month and a half, while we hit all these festivals.
Speaker 1:I got to read the ones I got first, damn.
Speaker 2:You read them yeah.
Speaker 3:I've been reading them.
Speaker 2:I thought they were just to collect autographs.
Speaker 1:I've been reading them. No, I've been reading. I don't read, I love reading.
Speaker 2:I used to love to read, but I stopped at, like teenage, I don't know. I stopped reading at like teenage romance.
Speaker 1:yeah, but here's the thing.
Speaker 2:Well, when I was in back in the day, when I was locked up, we can go there for a minute because we have to talk about the other thing that happened on Monday.
Speaker 1:I was a voracious reader, Obviously most inmates from where?
Speaker 2:from where?
Speaker 1:the inmates in jail.
Speaker 2:That's what I said, oh I said when I was locked up I said that to begin with.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, no. That's why I said I was a voracious reader. I said, as most inmates are, um, but now the only thing that I liked it, but that was all like novel. I'd read anything whatever, but like now, the only thing that I really like to read is like non-fiction, you know.
Speaker 2:I mean, like I like to learn right, right, but one of the books that you introduced me to that you found when you were in jail was like or prison, sorry, because there's a difference. I forgot Was. Is it a conversation? Well, I didn't find that in prison.
Speaker 1:But yeah, no about that. It was after that. But yeah, no, that's a great book. Conversations with God Conversation yeah, there's three books, Neil Donald Walsh, Very good stuff. It's just one of those mind exercises. It teaches you to think inside of your own thoughts, which is fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's so good. Oh my God. And for that very reason, I love when books teach me a new perspective on my thought process, Like I love learning about that. That's exactly right.
Speaker 1:That's exactly right. That's exactly right, is it? It teaches you, like I said, to like circulate your own, circumvent your own thoughts, sort of, and your way of thinking, to like sort of flip it on its head to teach you to think about things from like a different sort of viewpoint. Yeah, it's, very good Very good, it's very good, very good, it's very good.
Speaker 2:So I am going to bring it up because part of my birthday package and then we'll circle back because we have so much more to talk about in this space. Part of my birthday package was that whenever Babe asked me to marry him some what 17 years ago, or something 16, 17 years ago. Some what 17 years ago, or something 16, 17 years ago he bought me a ring at the time and when we were going through it and he was being a shit bird, I threw my engagement ring into the Atlantic Ocean somewhere around Polly's Island. I don't remember. I may or may not have been on mushrooms or, wait, no, did I throw it out of the car?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't remember. It might have been on mushrooms, or wait, no, did I throw it out the car?
Speaker 2:I don't know, I don't remember it might have been driving down the highway yeah, it might have been.
Speaker 1:It might have been but either way.
Speaker 2:So since then I've been asking for a ring and I've only got it now. For all you bitches that are worried about it being diamond or not diamond, I've always wanted an opal. Opal is scott's birthstone. It's also my most fate. My stone is moonstone and opal is the closest thing to moonstone, so plus moonstone, moonstone, moonstone see it all, you know it all.
Speaker 1:interweaves when do you get it though?
Speaker 2:Moonstone, you get it from the moon.
Speaker 1:Do you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, they drop some off.
Speaker 1:I thought that was moon rock.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Moonstone's just mine. It's like polished stone. Yeah, opal's like the gem gem version of moon run. The gem version the uncut gems version.
Speaker 1:Uncut gems speaking of speak.
Speaker 2:I didn't even try to do that we watched happy gilmore too.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about that, because that's something that's like Happy Gilmore for like people. Our age was like one of the most popular movies like ever for a young person. For a young stoner Adam Sandler was. He was people don't think of him this way, but he was sort of alt comedy. Think of him this way. But he was sort of old comedy like in the sense of like he was like what, we like that, like the parents didn't like like right the older people didn't like, I should say, because it was like that continued on to like into your 20s and stuff.
Speaker 1:But like it was the stuff that the older people didn't like, you know what I mean? It was young people humor and it was like growing up with him and like knowing his. Everybody had his. All my friends had his comedy albums. We used to quote him all the time, you know what I mean. Like they're so good, you want a haircut, they're gonna fucking cut your hair. They say fuck the sun. You say yeah, fuck the sun. I fucking hate it too long live the fucking beast. That's one of my favorite ones. But regardless, I mean so many things. But like and Happy Gilmore was like that movie where it was like you couldn't ignore Adam Sandler anymore at that point you know what I mean. Like he was going to be a star and whether the establishment wanted that or not was left to be. You know it didn't matter. And that and Billy Mattis, you know what I mean. They came out roughly the same time and it was like these two movies solidified him as like this guy's going to be making movies now for the next 40 years.
Speaker 2:I quote Billy Madison like every day. At least once a day I quote something from Billy Madison, or actually let's just say Adam Sandler in general, because I always say somebody's more important.
Speaker 1:I love that he did that. That, because he does that three times, like he does that in Happy Gilmore, he does that in Pixels, and then he does that in Happy Gilmore too, where he like says In that voice, in that same Somebody's ball went further. Right, right and but like for us, so happy Gilmore too. This is like we've been talking about it for months. We've been so jacked about this Because, despite what people say People like hate on Adam Sandler You're a dumbass. Because I love Adam Sandler and like I love his movies.
Speaker 2:I know he's brilliant. I mean it's always so good, like even that. What was it? The murder mystery one? Yeah, I've watched that over and over and over.
Speaker 1:They're funny and the thing is is like, is he out there? He's not out there. Adam Sandler was never out there trying to make fucking the departed, or yeah, like he's not trying to win academy awards, right, he's trying to make a movie that you can sit there and watch for 90 minutes and not like, just laugh a little, like and not care about other stuff, like that's all he's trying to do.
Speaker 2:He's just here to entertain and that's exactly what he does. And can I just say that there were so many like the whole movie was cameoed the fuck up Like it was so good.
Speaker 1:It was fun because he did what he does best, which is bring in the characters that everybody loves. Let them do their thing, combine it into somehow still tell a story. You know what I mean. And it was a good story.
Speaker 2:It was funny, it was. I mean, the storyline was solid, like I liked it. Oh, I agree, it was fun.
Speaker 1:He brought in all those real golfers, like that was cool. Scotty Scheffler was on there and Brooks Koepka and some other guys, hello. The one that I think is Scottish. Who oh? Rory McIlroy.
Speaker 2:No, john Daly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, John Daly was on there. That's even better because I love John Daly.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, I love him.
Speaker 1:John Daly is sort of like not really, but it's almost like who it's based on, because he could hit the ball super far and he was just like this drunken gambling fool that like disrupted the golf thing.
Speaker 2:I just love him because he's a nut. He's a record. Yeah, he's a certified nut and he's fantastic.
Speaker 1:He's a great guy.
Speaker 2:He's a great guy. He's so good Like and you could just imagine he's. I mean, that rule is probably as close to his real life shenanigans as you're going to get, I think that's.
Speaker 1:I don't even think he knew he was in the movie. He just thought he was hanging out with Adam Sandler.
Speaker 2:He's like oh, I thought Hacker Gilmore was real Because his daughters were in the movie. He's like oh, I thought these were your real sons too. Right, I love it. I love it. Plus, shout out I don't know the kid's name, but the little kid from Shameless was in there, which I love. That just brings my whole life full circle when I get those moments Like we don't live in, we live in an infinite world, right? So the fact that so many things in my life like cross-section all the time, it's like I'm right where I'm supposed to be, yeah, that's all yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 1:But yeah, no, it was definitely a fun movie. I mean, I had a good time with it and I think anybody. If you love Happy Gilmore and you like Adam Sandler, you'll like Happy Gilmore too. That's all I'm going to say. It's not like it's not a masterpiece.
Speaker 2:It wasn't disappointing at all. No, it did not disappoint A lot of those like long break. Second follow-up movies are disappointing. No.
Speaker 1:Or weird, but no, it still had a great story. It was still fun. It was very believable that that's where it picked up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like I don't want to give the plot or the storyline away because those fucking assholes, but yes.
Speaker 1:It's just believable that that's where that would have gone. Like it's just, it's fun, man, it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and the villains are so villain-esque. I love it so perfect, I love it.
Speaker 1:But that's why we mentioned Uncut Gems, because the guy that produced and wrote Uncut Gems is in the movie in Happy Gilmore 2, is one of the villains and yeah you get it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's good at it. Yeah, he's good at it, but that wasn't the only amazing movie we've watched this weekend. What did we watch last?
Speaker 1:week, oh my God, total surprise Death of a unicorn. Right, talk about good movie, dude. Totally original, unlike really any movie that I've watched recently. And it was fun, it was entertaining, it was fantastic. Uh, if you have not seen that death of a unicorn, that is a great movie. We really enjoyed it's so much fun comedy, horror fantasy, all wrapped up into one and a moral story like morality yeah what's crazy about this whole this movie?
Speaker 2:so I also watched um we were liars the series. We were liars while I was doing things. I was binge watching it yesterday while I was cleaning, doing other stuff, and the show felt to me like fan fiction of media moguls getting their just due.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like whatever happens at the end it was like fan fiction. When you want the media empire to fall right, that's what we Were Liars felt like there's a price to pay for being, you know this, rich and blah, blah, blah. That was sad and sappy and it was a great teenage drama thing. Death of a unicorn again it felt very much like fan fiction for the pharmaceutical heads, right. So while it was good, entertaining, fucking great movie, great cast at the end of the day you like there was a vengeance is mine theme there again?
Speaker 1:well, yeah, and I think that that's the idea, more so than like it's a revenge film, and I think that that's. It's a revenge film and the target in this instance is the pharmaceutical industry and it sort of weaves, like you said, this sort of like medieval tale into it with modern sort of stuff and it's very interesting, very good, very well, very well put together, very well done. Go check it out if you haven't. Those are movie recommendations Happy Gilmore.
Speaker 2:Plus, like one of the favorite, one of my favorite things about that is the campiness right. So I love when something can be both smart, funny and campy all at the same time. It's not like that dark humor that I love. I'm a big fan of dark humor.
Speaker 1:I think there's a lot of horror movies that do that well. That's why people love the zombie lands and the stuff like that, because it allows you to take on something serious like that but still have camp, still be smart, still say something. But because you're within this genre of a zombie movie and playing off these tropes and things, you can say something you can't otherwise say, just like I talk about when writing jokes. I love writing jokes where you can say something without really saying it because you're in the context of something ridiculous. So you sort of have a freedom that you don't otherwise have artistically.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, I like that. There was so many other things going on this ridiculous, so you sort of have a freedom that you don't otherwise have. Artistically right. Yeah, I like that. There was so many other things going on this week that I felt like we wanted to talk about. I mean, I don't want to talk about any of my social media bullshit other than to say I call you bitches.
Speaker 1:Um, no, we got a very busy month. We can talk about that. We have lots of comedy things coming up.
Speaker 2:We have lots of other stuff coming up.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. Like, we have all kinds of things. We're going to be in Pittsburgh next month for a wedding that's going to be very fun, for a fancy wedding.
Speaker 2:We don't ever do that.
Speaker 1:The fanciest we ever do. I'm scared, I'm scared, I'm scared. No, I am. I'm terrified of black tie. That sounds evil, but I don't like it.
Speaker 2:I can't wait to look Gown hair nails. It's a girl thing. I'm already thinking about taking my suit off. But wait, you've been trying to pull together a bunch of the wedding folks to go to a comedy show.
Speaker 1:No, that's not happening, we're going to take her.
Speaker 2:They have their after hours venues, so instead we might just kamikaze karaoke them Ambush, ambush, ambush.
Speaker 1:Ambush them Any chuckle fuckers out there this evening.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh God, that'd be hilarious we are going to our very first open mic slash comedy tonight.
Speaker 1:Open mic slash karaoke. Oh God, that changes it when it's open mic slash comedy. That's what we go to all the time.
Speaker 2:All the time Open mic comedy, slash karaoke.
Speaker 3:Karaoke yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah that'll be, fun, his thing and my thing all together in things.
Speaker 1:All together into one thing.
Speaker 2:Sometimes I try to do his thing and I'm not that good at it, and sometimes he tries to do my thing and he's not that good at it?
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm not good at it at all. You know what I do. It's either Freddie Fender or Young Jeezy. That's how we roll.
Speaker 2:So yeah, you've got some comedy stuff coming up.
Speaker 1:We have adventures.
Speaker 2:Well, we can't talk about those adventures.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, I remember now. I remember now, damn it.
Speaker 2:Damn it, damn it. It doesn't matter, we can wrap it up In two weeks. We are going to be talking about what?
Speaker 1:And what we're going to be talking about, because we're putting together a. So we do have a lot of stuff coming up and we're possibly talking about putting together our own little super secret show. That's going to be a full-deal barbecue comedy get-down Are you kidding me? And we're going to talk a little bit about that next time. And we're going to talk about our latest adventures because we're going to be investigating. We're going to be out there checking out UFOs, Bigfoots, comedy events, karaoke contests, food trucks, baseball games I don't know Movies.
Speaker 2:We might go to a baseball game.
Speaker 1:You never know what we might do. Yeah, I'm going to watch Final Destination next week.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, we got to hit a drive-in. Yeah, we got to hit a drive-in. Yeah, we got to hit a drive-in.
Speaker 1:We'll talk about drive-in history next time too. That's a good topic. Okay, like all that stuff, you know what I mean the rich drive-in history of Western Pennsylvania. But yeah, no, that's all going to be great. I think That'll be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2:And I had a super secret idea while we were talking. I really want to do a TV series and I don't know if I'm keeping this in because I might want to keep it quiet. I want to do a TV series just going—we've talked about going through Appalachia before but it was for different reasons right To meet the wonderful wife, to go sing karaoke with Mamie. I say we just go to Appalachia and talk to people about the folklore and just like have them like, walk us through.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just be like. You guys seen any cryptids out here? Where's Bigfoot hanging out down here in his town? What do you say, guys? You got some pepperoni rolls for this guy? Bigfoot loves pepperoni rolls, as do I. Yes, no, but I would. I would love to go check out the Mothman Bigfoot all through Appalachia. They got goblins down in Kentucky. I mean we could come on now hit some Music Fest, moonshine Fest, ufo Fest. I'm down, let's go.
Speaker 2:You can get me back out in Ohio for Mothman. I can do it. I love Mothman and I love Ohio, for whatever reason.
Speaker 1:Why is he in?
Speaker 2:Ohio, because that's where he started.
Speaker 1:I thought he started in Point Pleasant, West Virginia. That's near Ohio.
Speaker 2:Oh, it is, You're right. Okay, then we'll go out to Ohio for other reasons.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. I like Ohio too. I love me some Pettits. I love all that stuff, but I'm trying to get down there in West Virginia and find these cryptids. I just did. Oh shout out Hulk Hogan, love you brother.
Speaker 2:Shout out all the people. Yeah, we lost some big ones.
Speaker 1:This week Malcolm, Jamal, Warner, Ozzy and Hulk Hogan. That's like 80s childhood. It's like who else? Who's next? Bill Cosby? No.
Speaker 2:I hate you.
Speaker 1:It's time for Scott's thoughts. But first we were at the Pittsburgh UFO Festival. As you've already heard, our favorite purchase three years ago was this guy right here, this guy no, this guy right here. As you see, they are wonderful. They are made by a guy that runs a company called Legendary Luminaries. I mean, look at them, they're great, they're beautiful. We get asked about them all the time. People always want to know where'd you get those legendary luminaries? Now on to my thoughts. But it's more of a question really. There is these aliens out there traveling through space, checking everything out. What are they doing with all their garbage? Garbage? They just toss it out the window. Is there like a floating island of alien plastic, like there is in the Pacific Ocean just floating around? And it's just alien garbage. I think somebody needs to talk about this. Nobody's talking about this, but it's important to get a tip on this problem. So those are my thoughts. Stay trashy.
Speaker 2:Until next time, stay trashy. Until next time, stay trashy.
Speaker 3:So buckle up y'all. It's a hell of a ride. Scott and Atlanta got nothing to hide. From the gold to the garbage, we bring the sass. Welcome aboard. This is.
Speaker 2:Gilded Trash Bye-bye.
